You're welcome to "our" jobs and women.And this level of effort perfectly displays why it's so easy to come over here and take your jobs and women
Edit: anyway, this is taking the thread waaaaaay off topic (and I have work to do)
This is why people are losing respect for the police...
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but labour have implied in all their electioneering (and continue) that the poor tory government immigration process has been responsible for diversion of funds from other more worthy projects,
and that they have some golden solution - this feeds the racist protests - if deportation to Rwanda deterrent had been delivered the protestors may have been mollified,
Starmer is seemingly impotent to address this - he's needs too employ some psychologists to help on presentation of policy, and offsetting some of Farage's
... and meanwhile the policing costs soak up the Rwanda monies.
Most immigrants don't want to integrate into the society they are joining. You can see this everywhere in every country, every religion or culture.
Look at Australia for example hundreds of thousands of brits have moved to Perth and made it England in the sun, Benidorm is brits abroad. People only integrate to a certain level and that's when immigration is kept low, once there is enough in an area to create their own community the integration stops. We have seen this over and over again in citys and towns across England. Then these places are like moths to flames, why move to a part of a new country where you have to change how you live, the language you speak and what you think are social norms, when there is already a community built up and you can just slide right in.
There is no solution to the issue of mass immigration in England now, even if we were to go to net Zero on immigration the country is already over crowded, the areas that arnt integrated will stay the same, they have kids and their kids live how their parents live, we have all been brought up this way and that will never change.
This isn't all about immigration either, there's plenty of English people who live in squaller, on benefits and rinsing the system for all its worth, burn out cars and buses, rob their neighbors and in some cases worse than the "immigrants" areas.
The country needs massive reform ( not the party ) from the benefits system all the way up to the government.
Look at Australia for example hundreds of thousands of brits have moved to Perth and made it England in the sun, Benidorm is brits abroad. People only integrate to a certain level and that's when immigration is kept low, once there is enough in an area to create their own community the integration stops. We have seen this over and over again in citys and towns across England. Then these places are like moths to flames, why move to a part of a new country where you have to change how you live, the language you speak and what you think are social norms, when there is already a community built up and you can just slide right in.
There is no solution to the issue of mass immigration in England now, even if we were to go to net Zero on immigration the country is already over crowded, the areas that arnt integrated will stay the same, they have kids and their kids live how their parents live, we have all been brought up this way and that will never change.
This isn't all about immigration either, there's plenty of English people who live in squaller, on benefits and rinsing the system for all its worth, burn out cars and buses, rob their neighbors and in some cases worse than the "immigrants" areas.
The country needs massive reform ( not the party ) from the benefits system all the way up to the government.
I think the problem is We, the people, have never considered the country our own. It's still seen as being run by an elite.
The result is, unless you believe in the people, then the system is a foreign machine (French?) that will constantly run.
So some people at the bottom are rinsing it, just as the politicians rinse it at the top for their benefit. Because nobody thinks it's their money.
It's like when we think robbing a person is different to robbing a store. We're still robbing. But with a store we think "oh the insurance will cover it". Where do people think insurance money comes from!?
I think you're right about immigrant communities not integrating. Chinatown is another good example.
Though I don't think none integration isn't a problem in itself, like Jewish, Hindus, Sikhs communities don't mix that much. The problem is when a community is hostile to the host nation. When they want laws changing etc.
The issue is compounded by the failure of the host community not to defend its own values. If there is no overall community culture then none of the smaller communities have anything to integrate into.
When a British person laughs and mocks British culture and claiming it doesn't exist, why would any community want to integrate into nothing?
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And then...
Perhaps video on its own doesn't always tell the full story without some kind of informed insight to provide some vital context.
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I was just quoting the BBC News article. I'll be sure to go out and find my own independent sources before posting on OcUK next time.
The point wasn't really aimed at you, but given you didn't link to the article how is anyone to know whether it's a quote or your own interpretation of events?
Unfortunate that you didn't include the bit about the police standing around watching in your screenshot, because it doesn't appear to be on the BBC page you've screen grabbed now:
Best post you've ever made.
Violent Southport protests reveal organising tactics of the far-right https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cl4y0453nv5o
BBC reporting and verifying what we already know. Facists, including those previously jailed for being in Nazi groups, organised, promoted and attended the riot.
They are planning more, including one in Bristol at Castle Park on Saturday at 6pm. Counter protesters will once again be attending and very often in Bristol significantly outnumber and out fight the racists who come here.
The police have their work cut out for them, but at least they have plenty of notice.
BBC reporting and verifying what we already know. Facists, including those previously jailed for being in Nazi groups, organised, promoted and attended the riot.
They are planning more, including one in Bristol at Castle Park on Saturday at 6pm. Counter protesters will once again be attending and very often in Bristol significantly outnumber and out fight the racists who come here.
The police have their work cut out for them, but at least they have plenty of notice.
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You miss my point, the media and politicians cannot be trusted in the slightest to provide any insight or information or context.
You're better off trusting an alcoholic to keep your bottle of jonnie walker blue safe.
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So it basically was/is the EDL but they've learnt to not use an organisation/badge but organise on social media. Its the knuckle draggers though.
www.bbc.co.uk
Violent Southport protests reveal far-right organising tactics
Online influencers, rather than formal leaders, are mobilising the extreme right on the streets.
www.bbc.co.uk
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“The English Defence League (EDL) could be proscribed as a terror organisation in the wake of riots in Southport, Angela Rayner has suggested.“
www.telegraph.co.uk
Surprised they already haven’t. Perhaps then they can use the same laws they jailed Anjem Choudry for life (correctly) against the higher ups of groups like the edl.
English Defence League could be proscribed as terror organisation, suggests Rayner
Deputy PM also criticises Nigel Farage for ‘stirring up fake news online’ about reasons behind Southport knife attack
www.telegraph.co.uk
Surprised they already haven’t. Perhaps then they can use the same laws they jailed Anjem Choudry for life (correctly) against the higher ups of groups like the edl.
“The English Defence League (EDL) could be proscribed as a terror organisation in the wake of riots in Southport, Angela Rayner has suggested.“
English Defence League could be proscribed as terror organisation, suggests Rayner
Deputy PM also criticises Nigel Farage for ‘stirring up fake news online’ about reasons behind Southport knife attack
Surprised they already haven’t. Perhaps then they can use the same laws they jailed Anjem Choudry for life (correctly) against the higher ups of groups like the edl.
Probably because they're defunct as an organisation.
How can they ban something that doesn’t exist?“The English Defence League (EDL) could be proscribed as a terror organisation in the wake of riots in Southport, Angela Rayner has suggested.“
English Defence League could be proscribed as terror organisation, suggests Rayner
Deputy PM also criticises Nigel Farage for ‘stirring up fake news online’ about reasons behind Southport knife attack
Surprised they already haven’t. Perhaps then they can use the same laws they jailed Anjem Choudry for life (correctly) against the higher ups of groups like the edl.
Just seen that Rayner suggested it, now it makes sense.
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Just rebrand as the British Defence League if it's classed as a terror group, problem solved.
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