This is why people are losing respect for the police...

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Emlyn_Dewar said:
It's funny that it was the last protest that got the response it did. The previous ones, including one where a bus was burned was just some light hearted shenanigans, that was totally acceptable.
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It's really weird what happens when the protest is planned a day in advance (Southport) or takes place in probably the most heavily policed part of the country with the biggest police force, vs something that happened within a couple of hours outside of the capitol.
Apparently the idiots were throwing flares etc at the Downing Street protest, which is particularly stupid given there are a lot of armed officers and the Prime Minister etc are there, by some of the comments about the airport the police should have opened fire.

It's also weird how the police response varies depending on the ongoing risk to the general public.

It's almost like the police will treat a mob known for it's violence in the past, that have been planning it for a day (giving the police plenty of time to get ready themselves) and are there to go after individuals/a local group with rather more force than a group that might be doing some property damage but isn't an active threat to other members of the general public at that time.

And note I'm not excusing either group, what I am saying is that the police react different based on how much time they have, the level of violence, the current or expected risk to the public, and what they might know about specific major players in the groups. A lack of arrests in front of cameras on the day means very little with how much information the police can get on who was in an area.
Going back to various other protests that turned violent, the police response on the first day if it was unexpected has always tended to be low and more about containing if possible, because it takes time to organise hundreds of police officers, get them decked out in riot gear, loaded onto the busses and transported potentially hours away from their normal operating areas. Back during the Duggan riots IIRC it took the better part of a day just to get officers in place to start getting things under control*, and whilst the police may not have made many arrests early on, they were still arresting people something like 18 months later.

*And in the process, from memory they stripped the coverage from a large part of the country, even with cancelling all leave etc.
 
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Werewolf said:
It's really weird what happens when the protest is planned a day in advance (Southport) or takes place in probably the most heavily policed part of the country with the biggest police force, vs something that happened within a couple of hours outside of the capitol.
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Fantastic post. Are you police?
 
The mods here have got their work cut out for them (im not talking about having to deal with my posts), and they do a good job deleting a lot of stuff that’s reported.

How ever, at this point, due to the flagrant racism in multiple threads, it is apparent some people need their hard drives checking.


It is a criminal offence to stir up racial hatred, many posts of which it is clear are designed to do so. I strongly suggest they are reported to the police so these vile figures can be traced and dealt with.
 
jpaul said:
Hope the police are filming at all these riots, (even outside the court hearing) like for Gaza marches, to do some AI face recognition, then prosecution of the culprits,
those people burning the police cars were not so discrete.
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www.bbc.co.uk

Southport: Seven charged over Hartlepool unrest

Seven men have been charged after disorder broke out on Teesside on Wednesday.
www.bbc.co.uk

11 year old boy torched police car..

Probably the same one we saw throwing bricks at police.
 
maschio said:
It doesn't matter what it "reads like". That's only your misguided perception of a group of words.



Quote me who lumped all muslims in with terrorists. If you cannot, then retract your stupid statement, take it on the chin and get on with your life. I'm getting up at 8 to take my son and daughters swimming.
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How can it not matter what it reads like?! As for 'misguided perception of a group of words'... I can't be arsed banging my head against this brick wall.

I have quoted, twice now, who said it. Racism is by definition 'discrimination and prejudice against people based on their race or ethnicity'. That's exactly what Dis86 has done by saying Muslims are the more dangerous group.

Have a nice swim.
 
hurfdurf said:
The mods here have got their work cut out for them (im not talking about having to deal with my posts), and they do a good job deleting a lot of stuff that’s reported.

How ever, at this point, due to the flagrant racism in multiple threads, it is apparent some people need their hard drives checking.


It is a criminal offence to stir up racial hatred, many posts of which it is clear are designed to do so. I strongly suggest they are reported to the police so these vile figures can be traced and dealt with.
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Not that I don't agree that some posts are sailing very close to the wind. But if you have a problem with them, why don't you report them yourself, rather than suggesting that others do so?
 
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Werewolf said:
Back during the Duggan riots IIRC it took the better part of a day just to get officers in place to start getting things under control*, and whilst the police may not have made many arrests early on, they were still arresting people something like 18 months later.
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Yeah I remember seeing news footage of people smashing shops up, setting fire to stuff - then police officers on roofs just recording it with video cameras, people were raging about it.

Then like you say 18 months later, doors all over the country were being smashed in at 4am on a Sunday morning, and the judges were absolutely throwing the books at them at sentencing.
 
With all the riots, no matter who, where and when, every one of our police forces up and down the country are not prepared to do what is necessary to disperse the crowds.

Back when Boris was MOL he bought several appliances equip with water dispersal cannons, every other European country uses equipment like this, ontop of other pieces of kit like sonic projection vans etc. But we got rid incase the law breakers split a nail.

We need to get real, these riots are only the beginning of the issues we will face in England over the next few years, and everyone has their right to a peaceful protest, but once it kicks off the police need to be allowed to come in heavy and stop it in its tracks.

I don't care what your on the streets about, what colour you are, which pronouns you use protest within the law. Once that protest becomes violent hit them with everything and send them packing.
 
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BowdonUK said:
A majority of people don't like the Palestinian protests. Yes the cause is valid, and yes everyone were supporting the first few protests. But now they are taking the pee. They aren't just happening in London. They are happening all over the UK, at most major towns. It must be costing the government millions in policing costs.

Eventually they are going to have to stop. I think we know what reaction that will cause.
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Its not valid, we do not own Israel and Palestine.

You could i guess protest outside the Israeli embassy, that would be valid, but it is also retarded.

Werewolf said:
It's really weird what happens when the protest is planned a day in advance (Southport) or takes place in probably the most heavily policed part of the country with the biggest police force, vs something that happened within a couple of hours outside of the capitol.
Apparently the idiots were throwing flares etc at the Downing Street protest, which is particularly stupid given there are a lot of armed officers and the Prime Minister etc are there, by some of the comments about the airport the police should have opened fire.

It's also weird how the police response varies depending on the ongoing risk to the general public.

It's almost like the police will treat a mob known for it's violence in the past, that have been planning it for a day (giving the police plenty of time to get ready themselves) and are there to go after individuals/a local group with rather more force than a group that might be doing some property damage but isn't an active threat to other members of the general public at that time.

And note I'm not excusing either group, what I am saying is that the police react different based on how much time they have, the level of violence, the current or expected risk to the public, and what they might know about specific major players in the groups. A lack of arrests in front of cameras on the day means very little with how much information the police can get on who was in an area.
Going back to various other protests that turned violent, the police response on the first day if it was unexpected has always tended to be low and more about containing if possible, because it takes time to organise hundreds of police officers, get them decked out in riot gear, loaded onto the busses and transported potentially hours away from their normal operating areas. Back during the Duggan riots IIRC it took the better part of a day just to get officers in place to start getting things under control*, and whilst the police may not have made many arrests early on, they were still arresting people something like 18 months later.

*And in the process, from memory they stripped the coverage from a large part of the country, even with cancelling all leave etc.
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All you say is fine, but why do i see a video of police arresting some guy who is standing around, who is then de-arrested, he is doing absolutely nothing.

Additionally i see some old woman being arrested.

And the news is, 100 arrests, fair right this and that. Its all propaganda and spin.

I dont believe anything on the news i want video's only, zero text of any kind, no presenters, no commentary, no editing.

Soon enough it will be video with some evidence to show it was not AI generated.
 
Here are some men fighting with machetes next to a fun fair by the sea, families walking past watching.

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The police apparently arrested 6 people, but can be seen in the video standing and watching.
 
JonRGV250 said:

Make of it what you will
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The problem with Farage is that he's an excellent public speaker, and what he's saying in this video makes a lot of sense - I can see why people vote for him.

It's just a shame he's such a massive racist ******* and uses his talents to further divide and insight hatred of "other" instead of trying to bring people together :(
 
Kenai said:
I thought the 'Police standing and watching' thing was debunked as being local security staff last time that video was posted?
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It was debunked, but that won't stop people from continuing to spread misinformation if it suits their agenda.

Even if it was one or two police officers. They are instructed not to intervene on their own when there are several people with machetes.

Also, 8 people were arrested, not 6.
 
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Kenai said:
I thought the 'Police standing and watching' thing was debunked as being local security staff last time that video was posted?
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100% they were security guards.

I would not expect security guards to get involved in a knife fight that wasn't even on the premesis they are paid to guard.

I live nearby and know this for a fact.
 
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Quartz said:
Apart from being concerned about immigration, what are his other racist aspects?
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Apologies - racist is probably not quite the right word, I think "xenophobic" would be more accurate. Some highlights include the misleading & Nazi-esque "Breaking Point" poster, or the claim that Muslims don't support "British values", but it's generally the whole rhetoric around "everything is immigrants' fault"... as if there are no violent, aggressive, workshy and generally "unpleasant" white Christian British people
 
Haggisman said:
The problem with Farage is that he's an excellent public speaker, and what he's saying in this video makes a lot of sense - I can see why people vote for him.

It's just a shame he's such a massive racist ******* and uses his talents to further divide and insight hatred of "other" instead of trying to bring people together :(
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I'd rather he was PM.
 
Raiden85 said:
I'd rather he was PM.
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It would certainly expose him for the charlatan he appears to be! :D

In a parallel universe, I'd be curious to see who he'd shift the blame to after getting rid of all of the immigrants and most of our problems still exist, sadly I think the level of damage he'd do would make the last 14 years of Conservative rule look like political utopia in comparison
 
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Farage is a useless grifter, lets not let the thread descend even lower :D

I might not agree with labours stance and approach to all this but lets let it run its course and see what they do.
 
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