It's not really comparable to the PS3 release, as it's not a new console generation. It's the enthusiast model.Some people are comparing this to the PS3 launch’s pricing.
If they have a killer game to kick this off I think it’s fine but it seems all the games they were showing off have been out already. I don’t think I want to play Last of Us again…
The only thing is GTA 6 and I’ll just play it at 30fps.
You seem to be forgetting in your wall of text that this not a new generation, but an enthusiast model. It's not intended to sell anything like the base model; the PS4 Pro only ever reached a market share of 15%.Wait for Digital Foundry reviews as this is how they will sell £700 is great value.... Honestly after calming down I realised my first reaction is right and it is basically Sony really giving the middle finger to its customers that want to upgrade or even get into the Sony Ecosystem. Sorry this is worse than what they tried to pull back in the PS3 release days and the ridiculed price back then and they had to make many PS3 models at reduced prices to get even anyone to buy one, the PS3 only became a success in the end of its life, during its release it failed badly and Microsoft didn't help Sony too with a better and easier device to develop on.. PS3 was a horrible device for developers and had hardware that was really hard to get the performance out of, not because it was underpowered but incredibly difficult to program on to access all the power it had.
This feels like PS3 all over again...
PS1,PS2,PS4 amazing generations from the start... PS3 right at the end saved itself with the Sony exclusive games that later got remastered or updated anyways to PS4.. PS5... PS3/PS4 games updated again for the PS5 and hardly any new exclusives.
The only reason I want the PS5 PRO is to have the ability to play ps4/ps5 titles at better quality and performance than the previous devices.. BUT not at £800 to get a PS5 PRO with optical drive.. I paid £350 for a PS4 PRO with TLOU2 which was a brand new game that was released at that time.
Now they want to charge double with a device with no optical drive... sorry no... £550 was a sensible price for this with an optical drive... Anything more would need justifying with another controller or some AAA new game or something else.. Feel sorry for Mark Cerny as at the end of the day it is Sony that stuck the stupid price on this and I really hope this doesn't put him off the console market and helping Sony develop the hardware.. Without him these devices would have had worse specs for sure. Anyways...
You seem to be forgetting in your wall of text that this not a new generation, but an enthusiast model. It's not intended to sell anything like the base model; the PS4 Pro only ever reached a market share of 15%.
Especially when he's running his enthusiast 3090's in SLI, which if he bought new would have a had a decent mark up because it's the 'best'.... Ironic.I've just seen him posting in a lenovo legion thread and talking of ordering a £500+ quid handheld so figured he would be familiar with the concept of a less mainstream offering.
Seems strange to be so angry about it.
To be fair. I'm not seeing the enthusiasm value add for that extra £300 (minus optical drive) over the OG PS5. Irrespective of inflation or semiconductor / component scarcity; this looks poor value for money. If you've never owned a PS5, this might be worth the punt. For existing PS5 owners, I'm somewhat sceptical where this leaves developer effort with pushing the base model to it's limits versus the up-sell marketing ploy to push for the Pro.You seem to be forgetting in your wall of text that this not a new generation, but an enthusiast model. It's not intended to sell anything like the base model; the PS4 Pro only ever reached a market share of 15%.
Double the storage? Great that's at most £50 retail price increase.Honestly think people just complain about the price for the sake of it, the original PS5 is still around £400 for the digital version, the pro has higher specs and double the storage
What interest would third-party developers have in selling the Pro model for Sony. They will cater to the install base. Reviews of the games will always be primarily based on the performance on the base console.To be fair. I'm not seeing the enthusiasm value add for that extra £300 (minus optical drive) over the OG PS5. Irrespective of inflation or semiconductor / component scarcity; this looks poor value for money. If you've never owned a PS5, this might be worth the punt. For existing PS5 owners, I'm somewhat sceptical where this leaves developer effort with pushing the base model to it's limits versus the up-sell marketing ploy to push for the Pro.
I think this is a little test on pricing, like when phones finally breached the 1k mark.
You'd hope but in the current world of remasters / remakes; the pessimist in me thinks otherwise.What interest would third-party developers have in selling the Pro model for Sony. They will cater to the install base.
What's concerning me is that with no upgrade to the CPU will it even be able to play GTA 6 at 60FPS? I will be amazed if the standard PS5 plays it above 30..I “was” going to get a PS5 Pro for GTA6 and keep my 4090, but at that price it ain’t happening.
I’ll just get a used PS5 and put the rest towards a 5090.
You underestimate the general public. I'd be surprised if it didn't sell out for months.What if, this is the plan all along. Lots of negative comments. They drop the price down £100 or include a bluray drive bundle. Preorder isn't until later this month. One can only hope.
Well, the likely scenario is these are hoovered up by scalpers and sold for triple the price! Which of course, people will payYou underestimate the general public. I'd be surprised if it didn't sell out for months.
Crazy that this refresh is still quite a bit worse than my 4 year old PC. I get the convenience factor and having early access to Sony games (thankfully a lot of them are coming to PC).