You expect Lisa to come out and admit that they delayed their launch so they can undercut Nvidia by $25? That's really not how it works.
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Yeah I really have to pick up a card in the new year, I am excited to see what UDNA brings to the table in the future though.
£600? No thanks. 8800XT Needs to be £500 or less, considering that 7900XTs are currently just above £600.
If they want marketshare, they need affordably priced cards. Intel is playing it smart trying to make a dent in the budget tier..
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RDNA 4 will no doubt be priced crap. I'll be looking to replace a 6600 XT.
Same thing year in year out on here and other tech sites, it almost seems like people don't recognise the leaks change their "info" dozens of times during the course of the products run up, then when it finally launches they point to the one thing they got vaguely right while sweeping the other 99% of the totally wrong info under the carpet. Then the fact they were 99% wrong gets forgotten for the next round of launches and people are taking them as legit again and the cycle repeats itself. It's like selective amnesia. The odd time they get some legit info but more often than not its an exercise in throwing **** at a wall and seeing what sticks.
Polaris was mental, the talk for that was all over the place.
Gee thanks for that, I've only been here for basically every gpu launch and the run up to those, but its good to know you somehow managed to take that out of context and put your own spin on it. I'm, obviously referring to the launch event when I talk about the horses mouth. But you keep on believing that its been delayed just because the leaks you obviously put so much faith in got it 100% wrong (who coulda seen that coming) and had to backpedal and claim it was delayed.
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£450-£500 would be nice, but if its got much improved RT performance then maybe £550? Hopefully they don't **** the bed with pricing.
I must be the only one that thinks £500-£600 is reasonable for a mid range. You can, have Intel at £250 for lower end, and nvidia £1k and over for "higher" end. But I've already said my peace on the same old people complaining about AMD and pricing. Nvidia seem to get a clear pass, people jokingly and openly complain, but then still pay the stupid asking prices, yet for AMD, they always want more for less. And to those people I say... There is a lovely thread for you here - https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/blackwell-gpus.18985861
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I don't think Nvidia get a pas as such, people complain about their prices plenty. It's just that if you want to buy a new GPU what choice do you have? So people end up paying Nvidia's prices.
If they think the only choice is Nvidia then what do they card about AMD's pricing?
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Maybe they don't, maybe it's different people?
Also, at least some of them want AMD to price their cards so that they're a reasonable option.
No way, no how will 8800xt be £500. They may claim that as MSRP/RRP, but it will be £600 and up street.
Agreed. It needs that 500 or less pricetag, but to be honest, even at 500 I'm not that tempted if at all. In my mind it would be a stellar offering(at 500 or less) for those on 6700XT/RTX 3070 and below, as long as it performs as rumoured. Time will tell.
Or probably the only one to accept modern day bad pricing. Last time I bought a GPU, midrange was half that cost and high-end (excluding Titan tier) was a smidge more than what is midrange now. With current gen, 7800XT was a hard sell above £500 but becomes a popular option when it dropped below. Meanwhile the 4070... NGL I don't even consider them, IMO its a hard sell even at £400 due to 7700XTs going for £350 and below. Nvidia's current GPUs are so bad for price-to-performance that I don't consider them and things like DLSS are actually a mark against them for me. We shouldn't need to use upscaling technology to get reasonable performance and yet some how Nvidia has normalised it to justify the lower VRAM on their cards. It's just as silly to me that there's folks defending DLSS as a value add, than folks defending poor pricing.
Anyhow, my point with the 8800XT is that we need improvement in price to performance from what we have now. If priced £599.99... that's barely better than buying a 7900XT right now.
Also a lot of folks who'd be looking to buy this sort of GPU, have their own upper price limits at £500 anyway.
The only Nvidia software trick I'd give any value to is DLAA, of which I'd like to see an AMD equivalent.
As for everything else, I see them only as a way to pad developers margins by cutting costs on optimization, we went from using MSAA to actually downsampling and I'm beyond baffled for that.
As for everything else, I see them only as a way to pad developers margins by cutting costs on optimization, we went from using MSAA to actually downsampling and I'm beyond baffled for that.
I built a midrange PC for a family member this month and I went with the 7800 XT as it was the only reasonable choice.
I had a look at prebuilts out of curiosity and AMD was nowhere to be found. Prebuilts was a 4060 galore and then people wonder how the Nvidia xx60 ends up on top of Steam hardware survey every time.
I use RTX HDR a lot and couldn't care less about anything else but that's the thing, most people use at least one of NVidia's features.
I do agree that Nvidia is ahead on software, however as nice as it is I keep going to AMD for the more generous VRAM allocation.
