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platypus said:
I'm sort of hoping these come along at the 1k£ price point and have decent performance (lets face it, who isn't!).
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I hope you're joking mate, cos these GPUs don't look like they will be performing like a 4090. That's the only way AMD could justify a £1k price point, cos folks had previously expected the 5080 to do that at £1k and are now disappointed cos it doesn't.

Realistically, they'll be priced around the 5070ti price/performance. I estimate that the 9700XT will be a performance competitor for 5070ti and would therefore need to be a bit cheaper to win any chance of sales.
 
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Murphy said:
Hope not otherwise i can see it being another flop, it needs to perform close to a 5070 Ti and be priced close to a 5070.
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I am going to go with :

Sapphire 9070XT nitro £799 Inc at launch and then £749 3 months later.

Reference 9070XT £699 inc at launch then £649 3 months later.

I don't think the 5080 was fast enough.
 
MyBrainz said:
Of course they will when some here are now saying they are willing to pay up to £750 for a 70 tier GPU, just because it might not be far off 5080 performance.

So going down the stack the 9060 will be well over £400.

If ever the 9060 (non XT) came out ~5070Ti performance would some of you actually buy it for over £500?


AMD showed the slide with the 70 tier comparison so therefore should do their usual 'price slightly lower' but this time price it lower than what they normally do.

9070XT = no more than $600
9070 = no more than $450

AIB's really should not be adding anymore than $75-$100 on top of their cards, just because they change the cooling.

If PC gaming ever dies or becomes only for people with cash to throw away, it'll be the gamers fault for paying for these overpriced GPU's :(
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Not happy about it at all, however I am likely to pay it as it's one of the only expensive hobbies I have left. I earn good money and fast cars and living for the weekend are long gone.

It's not great I admit and I won't pay Nvidia levels but if I have to pay 750 every few years to carry on enjoying this hobby then there isn't much else I can do about it. I know people should vote with their wallet but I feel I am not really part of the problem when it seems most are willing too pay north of 1.2k for some cards
 
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platypus said:
Is the 5080 not the sort of mid end they want to compete with?
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I wouldn't say so, up until the 30 series 80 class cards use to be considered an enthusiast class of card, and I'd still class them as such.

Despite Nvidia's attempt to shift that window.
 
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ICDP said:
No, these look to be about 20% slower. Think more 5070Ti and 5070 competitors.
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Ah, okay. Am I expecting rather too much for a g59 neo then? Do I have to look at team green?

I don’t really care about 4k gaming or 244hz refresh rate, but I play the odd game that will push things, eg helldivers2, frostpunk2. Not bothered about massive frame rates but obv for the shooter it makes a diff.
 
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platypus said:
Ah, okay. Am I expecting rather too much for a g59 neo then? Do I have to look at team green?

I don’t really care about 4k gaming or 244hz refresh rate, but I play the odd game that will push things, eg helldivers2, frostpunk2. Not bothered about massive frame rates but obv for the shooter it makes a diff.
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helldivers 2 and frostpunk 2 aren't games pushing any limits, heck a 4070 can get 60+ on helldivers 2 at 4k, if the 9070/xt will do better than that
 
ICDP said:
No, these look to be about 20% slower. Think more 5070Ti and 5070 competitors.
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maybe, maybe not, the 5080 isn't that much quicker than a 4080 super. AMD have delayed to sharpen the drivers, it's entirely possible that the 9070 XT will be 4080 speed at stock, in some situations.
 
In best cases it may tie with an original 4080, the RT looks to be near 4070Ti which isn't bad at all. Now considering you could have got a 4080 super for a year now just under a grand, to look good and show progression the expectation is it maintains its mid-range focus that they dropped out of the high end for the £500 mark. If it creeps to much above £600 then its not going to get much love from the enthusiasts.
 
The now deleted chiphell timespy extreme result was on par with a stock 4080 super. If you add that to the verifiable benchmark done on the floor in las Vegas using a real desktop rig you end up with a picture where the raster performance is a known quantity at 330 watts.

What we don't know is the ray tracing performance.
 
What will happen (like always) is people with no intention of buying Amd will be annoyed that Amd don't sell cards cheap enough to force nvidia cards (which they do intend on buying) to come down in price.

It seems to be seen as AMDs duty to sell cheap cards. Nvidia are just given freedom to do wtf they want with pricing but Amd better be a quarter of the price.
 
To be fair I am seeing a lot of anti Nvidia sentiment around their pricing practices. Even from posters and tech journalists who previously were quick to jump to NVIDIA’s defence. Especially with the 5000 series and to a lesser extent the 4000.

To me Nvidia have always been by far the worst culprit of these practices and they do get a lot more leeway. AMD are of course prone to doing the same thing but they do get called out more in general and do tend to get unfair press on drivers etc. The 7900 XT pricing was an utter joke.
 
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