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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - (PRE)ORDER DISCUSSION **NO COMPETITOR HINTING**

dmfg said:
This is the problem I have with my 3060 Ti. The 5090 is not an option for me, and for all the other cards - I already made this purchasing decision 1-2 years ago when I decided not to buy a 4080 super or 4070 Ti/Ti super because the value wasn't there. Now the same cards are for sale again with a different name, so why would I want them this time when I didn't want them last time?
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Craig_d1 said:
so you get 2x the performance...the 3070 was £469...you're paying £800 (from looking at prices, that ain't bad),..a lot of cards are over £900...and not knocking you upgrading, but in real terms over 4years, you're getting twice the performance for twice the price.....nothing great in that...2 generational uplift for 0% price/performance gain. Nvidia pr department must be laughing their arses off and slapping themselves on the back, having convinced the masses this is a good deal....lets see where the 5070 comes in...and lets not forget you could have bought a 4070super for several months at £500 not that long ago
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Yeah good points there - I can't disagree.

I wasn't looking for a GPU a few months ago that's the problem :D

If I want to game at 4k properly what are my choices then? Budget £800. Current card 3070. What is my play?
 
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Brumboy said:
Yeah good points there - I can't disagree.

I wasn't looking for a GPU a few months ago that's the problem :D

If I want to game at 4k properly what are my choices then? Budget £800. Current card 3070. What is my play?
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I'd wait another month or so. Without exagerration, this window is one of the worst in the history of graphics cards to buy.

nV PR is peeing on our legs and telling us it's raining. Absurd that you need to spend twice as much for twice the performance 4+ years later.
 
Zigwig said:
I feel like I have woken up to an existential crisis this morning :cry:
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Consider the advantages of waiting:

- Stock should stabilize in a month or two on the 5-series at which point the predatory prices will go down, there will be more model options, and if you're looking used there will be more listings

- 9070/xt will be out which, while likely not blowing the doors off price/performance, will almost certainly cut a finer jib than 5-series. The xt is right in your target segment and sounds like it will compete directly with 5070ti

There's also the moral quandry, if this matters to you, of ultimately giving money to a company that is assaulting their historic customer base relentlessly through insidious, monopolistic tactics.
 
harmattan said:
I'd wait another month or so. Without exagerration, this window is one of the worst in the history of graphics cards to buy.

nV PR is peeing on our legs and telling us it's raining. Absurd that you need to spend twice as much for twice the performance 4+ years later.
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Okay so if I cancelled my current order for the £799 5070Ti MSI and waited a month. What would change? Just curious.
 
harmattan said:
Consider the advantages of waiting:

- Stock should stabilize in a month or two on the 5-series at which point the predatory prices will go down, there will be more model options, and if you're looking used there will be more listings

- 9070/xt will be out which, while likely not blowing the doors off price/performance, will almost certainly cut a finer jib than 5-series. The xt is right in your target segment and sounds like it will compete directly with 5070ti

There's also the moral quandry, if this matters to you, of ultimately giving money to a company that is assaulting their historic customer base relentlessly through insidious, monopolistic tactics.
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The design was late due to bugs.

If they delayed the launch by a month to build stock and no cards were out yet, everyone would still be whining, just with a different grievance.

Unless you've already secured or pre ordered a card near MSRP for your chosen model then waiting for the stock build is definitely the play.
 
Joxeon said:
Would you have classed a 2060 as 3rd tier since that was closer in performance to its generations flagship than the 5070ti is to a 5090?
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No thats 4th tier I am not going by performance or GPU chip type which Nvidia muddied the waters with but by Nvidia's own numbering scheme. 60 4th, 70 3rd, 80 2nd, 90 1st. Forget performance etc.
 
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DavieJG said:
The design was late due to bugs.

If they delayed the launch by a month to build stock and no cards were out yet, everyone would still be whining, just with a different grievance.

Unless you've already secured or pre ordered a card near MSRP for your chosen model then waiting for the stock build is definitely the play.
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People would indeed have complained either way, but I still think a delay would have been the better option. Launches like this play right into the hands of scumbag scalpers. Plus it would have given them more time to get the drivers right and might have avoided that crap driver they put out for the 5080/5090 launch, which ended up causing problems for lots of people with older cards as well.
 
Still 41 in dat Suprim queue… no ETA bleerrrghh :p

I know those at the front are due a delivery early March but that could just be a handful of cards.

I’m thinking early April…

Edit: new monitor lands in about 3 weeks so I can wait… just don’t want to be stuck with the 3090 for long once that arrives!
 
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Rogueywon said:
People would indeed have complained either way, but I still think a delay would have been the better option. Launches like this play right into the hands of scumbag scalpers. Plus it would have given them more time to get the drivers right and might have avoided that crap driver they put out for the 5080/5090 launch, which ended up causing problems for lots of people with older cards as well.
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A delay definitely would have created a better situation than the absolute %#&storm we're in now, leaving actors open to doing all manner of nonsense we're seeing now. Case in point, AIBs are claiming "launch" MSRP for cards that aren't even in market. This MSRP will be altered (upwards) globally once cards are actually available...

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If they are only get 6 in a time and one delivery a week say.
I am not going to get my card for at least 9 weeks.

I will give my order till mid March now and see what happens if very little movement will cancel - As probably paying £30 a month interest on the card not being dispatched.
 
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Matthew Hunt said:
If they are only get 6 in a time and one delivery a week say.
I am not going to get my card for at least 9 weeks.

I will give my order till mid March now and see what happens if very little movement will cancel - As probably paying £30 a month interest on the card not being dispatched.
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And the reseller will be making £50/mo off your hard-earned money, so in addition to paying for the privilege of maybe one day getting a card, someone else is using your money.
 
Stayed 6th in my queue for the Palit 5080 ProGaming all week, did move from 5th to 6th so assume a prebuilt jumped to first in queue.

Hopefully get some cards in today or next week not fussed waiting if I don't end up paying more just a pain how hard its getting trying to get new parts probably should've just waited like I did with the 9800X3D
 
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