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Asus fanbois. For those who dare to pay the Asus Tax
Asus ROG PG32UCDM - 4k OLED 240hz
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Based on the rtings comparison at least, the Asus is worse and costs more
Cost varies by region, the Asus was on offer for cheaper here in the UK than the Gigabyte was recently. But the Gigabyte model has also seen sales as well.Based on the rtings comparison at least, the Asus is worse and costs more
For the 32" 4k QD-OLEDs you aren't really making a bad decision whichever way you go.
Curved? Go with the Alienware version. Otherwise you can pick between MSI, Gigabyte and Asus with all offering largely the same feature set, just depends on the best price at the time and potentially you preference with the design of the monitor as well!
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I think Im replying to the wrong person here, lol sorry. Launch was circa 1,300-1,500 I think. I just got a new one for sub 1k. Seems reasonable for such a well regarded 4k monitor. Its less than 1/3 of my PC build cost. I value the thing i spend 100% of of PC time looking. Ive watched so many reviews and it does extremely will in them all - especially colour reproduction, HDR tuning, uniformity and 3 yr burn in warranty (not that i would want to go anywhere near Asus currently with a warranty claim given their recent press)
From the various reviews I’ve read, ASUS monitors tend to have the least bugs / firmware issues… plus the overall best colour accuracy and HDR implementations. But there probably isn’t much in it.
The new proximity sensor on new ASUS’s 27” model (PG27UCDM) is supposed to be good. I think the ASUS 32” version also has a proximity sensor for turning the monitor on and off, not sure how good that is on the 32” model though. I assume the 27” has improved it since it’s been a focus of their marketing.
As per DP2.1 vs DP1.4, yes most people are not supposed to be able to tell the difference with display stream compression (DSC) so on paper it’s not a big deal, but using DSC can cause all sorts of weird incompatibility issues with different monitors / drivers etc. and having personally gone through the nuisance of trying to figure out what is causing my monitor to ‘turn on / off’ randomly (by process of elimination, it was probably DSC) I would be going for DP2.1 if availible.
PG27UCDM is the bestest, supposedly, if you can accept a 27” screen… which might be a dealbreaker.
MSI has also released a 32” 240hz screen with DP2.1 -> 322URX. So that’s worth a look!
The new proximity sensor on new ASUS’s 27” model (PG27UCDM) is supposed to be good. I think the ASUS 32” version also has a proximity sensor for turning the monitor on and off, not sure how good that is on the 32” model though. I assume the 27” has improved it since it’s been a focus of their marketing.
As per DP2.1 vs DP1.4, yes most people are not supposed to be able to tell the difference with display stream compression (DSC) so on paper it’s not a big deal, but using DSC can cause all sorts of weird incompatibility issues with different monitors / drivers etc. and having personally gone through the nuisance of trying to figure out what is causing my monitor to ‘turn on / off’ randomly (by process of elimination, it was probably DSC) I would be going for DP2.1 if availible.
PG27UCDM is the bestest, supposedly, if you can accept a 27” screen… which might be a dealbreaker.
MSI has also released a 32” 240hz screen with DP2.1 -> 322URX. So that’s worth a look!
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I am really hoping so. Of all the new build (and coming from a 9 year old PC) this is the thing Im most excited to see. Im going to christen it with the Dead Space remake or possibly Calisto Protocol.
Agreed. I came to terms with that when I was weighing up 4k vs 1440p ultrawide. My deciding factors were: 1440p ultrawide OLEDs seem to be poor choices and old gen. The newer gen OLED panels seem to be heading into the 4k space at the moment. I do some productivity work and 4k will be a sight to behold I think. I will probably have a little regret that I dont have that wrap-around immersion an ultrawide gives (and the frame rate bump a 1440p ultrawide will be) but moving from 27" to 32" will definitely fill more of my field of view - And Ive had no complaints at all gaming on a 27" 16:9. A lot of what I played was COD Warzone and having your mini map and other key info much further out of your FOV would be annoying I think. My longer term plan is that 4k will come into its own now - the high 40 series cards can just about game on it, and the 50 series for sure (when not smoking) and so I will enjoy my 4080 until either the 5090 comes back to sensible price points or the 6080 comes out. Im really interested to fiddle with DLSS 4 and all that gives - I didnt have that option on my 1080!
Ah ha. I had forgotten all about DSC. So if by some miracle i play something which the 4080 can drive past 4k 144hz (the limit of DP 1.4) then DSC kicks in and allows the card to say drive the monitor at 190hz even on SP 1.4?
As you your second point, last night I bought 3 x HDMI 2.1 vesa certified 3m cables from Amazon for delivery today (Ugreen and Silkland) hoping they arent scam cables and ill return the 2 poorest performing ones. I expect the monitor itself comes with both cables but ill bet they are both less than 2m
@Middenacht - DSC should be enabled by default when you select a > 144hz refresh rate at 4k for your monitor via Nvidia control panel.
It’s DSC switching ‘on and off’ that’s the problem that you want to avoid. In my personal use case, my monitor will ‘turn off’ for 2/3 seconds just like I am selecting another input. This happens at seemingly random intervals with my (160hz max) monitor running >144hz at 4k via display port 1.4.
It’s impossible to be sure what is causing this, but I’m pretty sure windows and the monitor are getting confused as to what level of DSC is required and then it’s recalibrating as it goes. When you’re running at 240hz, this might be less common as windows / monitor already knows it will have to use a ‘relatively compressed’ DSC.
Have a google for ‘alt + tab’ and DSC issues and you’ll get a feel for the sort of nuisances that people run into.
With all of this said, most people don’t seem to run into major issues. But for me personally if there was a choice between a monitor with DP2.1 with the full 80gb/s bandwidth or not, I’d be going with the full DP2.1 for these reason.
As mentioned, the MSI 322URX seems to be another model that offers this.
It’s DSC switching ‘on and off’ that’s the problem that you want to avoid. In my personal use case, my monitor will ‘turn off’ for 2/3 seconds just like I am selecting another input. This happens at seemingly random intervals with my (160hz max) monitor running >144hz at 4k via display port 1.4.
It’s impossible to be sure what is causing this, but I’m pretty sure windows and the monitor are getting confused as to what level of DSC is required and then it’s recalibrating as it goes. When you’re running at 240hz, this might be less common as windows / monitor already knows it will have to use a ‘relatively compressed’ DSC.
Have a google for ‘alt + tab’ and DSC issues and you’ll get a feel for the sort of nuisances that people run into.
With all of this said, most people don’t seem to run into major issues. But for me personally if there was a choice between a monitor with DP2.1 with the full 80gb/s bandwidth or not, I’d be going with the full DP2.1 for these reason.
As mentioned, the MSI 322URX seems to be another model that offers this.
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Totally get all that you say - and thank you. For me the point is moot, because neither the monitor I just bought (PG32UCDM) or the 4080 Super I have just bought support DP2.1 so solving that issue properly is a double upgrade away. My wife has already taken both my balls for how much Ive spent...I fear the 'but i need DP2.1 dear' conversation may entirely neuter me!
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Hi chaps. Got the monitor yesterday. **** myself a bit when there was a hole in the box dead center of the panel side. Luckily there is good space in the box and panel/screen in perfect condition. Got it all working on HDMI at 240hz refresh in W11.
2 queries.
1. Instructions indicate the panel can be swivelled 15 degrees in either direction. By swivel I mean sitting in front of the panel, you grab either side and push/pull to rotate the screen around the vertical axis. When I do this it just skids on the legs. It shows this adjustment in 2 different places in the online manual.
2. My desk is spirit leveled. My monitor won't sit level. Slightly off true. There is no adjustment in the manual for rotating the screen (raising top right corner whilst lowering top left corner). Am I missing something?
Screen looks lovely. Very rich colours and vivid. Only used in windows so far. Super surprised I can read everything in 4k with scaling at 100. Was expecting to need 150. What scaling do you use?
2 queries.
1. Instructions indicate the panel can be swivelled 15 degrees in either direction. By swivel I mean sitting in front of the panel, you grab either side and push/pull to rotate the screen around the vertical axis. When I do this it just skids on the legs. It shows this adjustment in 2 different places in the online manual.
2. My desk is spirit leveled. My monitor won't sit level. Slightly off true. There is no adjustment in the manual for rotating the screen (raising top right corner whilst lowering top left corner). Am I missing something?
Screen looks lovely. Very rich colours and vivid. Only used in windows so far. Super surprised I can read everything in 4k with scaling at 100. Was expecting to need 150. What scaling do you use?
Can anyone with this monitor tell me how the KVM part works and is it reliable? Looking into options to simplify my desk setup a bit while upgrading monitor.
In an ideal world, I'd like to connect my usb keyboard and wireless mouse (with usb receiver) to the monitor, the connect my Windows desktop PC using DisplayPort and a USB host cable, and a MacBook using TB/USB-c, then be able to switch inputs without faffing around in monitor sub-menu's. a single button click or even keyboard hotkey.
In an ideal world, I'd like to connect my usb keyboard and wireless mouse (with usb receiver) to the monitor, the connect my Windows desktop PC using DisplayPort and a USB host cable, and a MacBook using TB/USB-c, then be able to switch inputs without faffing around in monitor sub-menu's. a single button click or even keyboard hotkey.
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That's exactly how it works. The manual sets it out. It also tells you the kvm swap hotkey (cntl-alt-Q kind of thing). I've not used it (only had for 24 hrs) but my wife has similar setup on her Samsung ultrawide with kvm.
Sorry I can’t help at all on the stand as I have mine mounted on a monitor arm
As I find the stock stands on monitors take up to much desk space
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Yup. Agreed on all counts.
And in the space of me moaning about said lack of adjustment and your reply, my monitor arm just arrived! Yay.
The legs on this monitor were totally where my mouse mat goes for gaming. Come way too far forward.
I bought the panel tho, not the legs! And bright side 90% of the 'gamerrr led nonsense' is on the leg/stand.
Thanks, I've seen how it should work now but seen plenty of Reddit suggesting it does odd things if a device goes to sleep etc. I know there have been some firmware updates so unsure if any of that was fixed? Was hoping someone who uses it could feedback their experience
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Well, i can now give you first hand experience of the PG32UCDM and its KVM support.
Note Ive upgraded the monitor to the latest firmware (MM108)
My mouse and keyboard are connected to the monitor USB ports (as you would expect).
I am using my latest gaming rig connected to the monitor via HDMI 2.1 and the USB A/B port which effectively communicates the data for the Keyboard and Mouse.
My other PC is a laptop, connected to the monitor via USB C.
I can happily switch between either computer using select input (USB-C or HDMI) and when it switches its pretty quick and the mouse and keyboard follow.
However I can also report that if one or the other of the computers goes to sleep, I am unable to wake it by wiggling the mouse or tapping on the keyboard. I have messed about with ensuring that the KVM Hub remains on during standby and this made no difference.
I could wake my laptop up by opening the clamshell and re-closing it. All good.
I cannot get my gaming rig to wake back up. I think out of desperation the other day, I pressed the flashing power button on my PC case and it woke it back up (this is whilst my laptop is still plugged into the USB-C port on the KVM). If the laptop is not plugged in (like right now) I can happily put my PC to sleep and wake it back up again via the KVM (ie my mouse and keyboard are plugged into the monitor)
So basically, it almost works fine, you can get around most issued, but its not perfect. I expect another few firmware upgrades will resolve this.
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That is super intersting information, thank you for testing this for me (and anyone else interested in real world behaviour!)
Certainly seems like something that could be fixed in a future firmware given it half works if you just have your PC connected and can wake it up from sleep. But as you said, just pressing the power button on the PC isn't exactly arduous as a short term fix.
Have you tried the keyboard hotkey switching?
Certainly seems like something that could be fixed in a future firmware given it half works if you just have your PC connected and can wake it up from sleep. But as you said, just pressing the power button on the PC isn't exactly arduous as a short term fix.
Have you tried the keyboard hotkey switching?
Totally different monitor isnt it? PG32UQX / PG32UQXE is IPS mini LED Gsync Ultimate 144 / 160Hz. Id love to see the Asus PG32UQXE and PG32UCDM side by side.