The RX Vega 64 Owners Thread

Nemesis.ie · 30 Sep 2017 at 08:49

Cute. Although the brighter line of LEDs almost looks like some king of demon's mouth/flames. I like it like that.

On that note, one of the LEDs (in the middle of the line) on my AIO doesn't work from day one.

Panos · 30 Sep 2017 at 09:03

henson0115 said:
all to busy bashing each other in the nvidia driver thread lol

Tell me about it -_-
Complained the latest drivers are forcing me to use window mode on all DX11 games because I have no sound on full screen mode (via DP), and was treated like a heretic and an idiot. That by rolling back to previous version works, is ignored....

henson0115 · 30 Sep 2017 at 10:20

sharmanov said:
LOL

Panos said:
Tell me about it -_-
Complained the latest drivers are forcing me to use window mode on all DX11 games because I have no sound on full screen mode (via DP), and was treated like a heretic and an idiot. That by rolling back to previous version works, is ignored....

that is exactly what i was refering to, very elitest response you received. i would just ignore them. did you try running ddu and installing them from scratch?

Panos · 30 Sep 2017 at 10:49

henson0115 said:
that is exactly what i was refering to, very elitest response you received. i would just ignore them. did you try running ddu and installing them from scratch?

Of course, always

nashathedog · 30 Sep 2017 at 10:49

If there's an issue that warrant's a moan it should be moaned on,
If there's an issue that warrant's a pat on the back it should be patted on,
What I don't get is all this branding and segmenting between users,
It's stupid.
I used just AMD for a few years leading up to 5 months ago,
Since then I've used Nvidia,
That said I'm likely to be back on Vega by the end of the year,
As a rule I don't mind who I buy from,
I want the best experience my budget allows.
At the moment I prefer AMD because I got a really nice Freesync monitor
from the MM. I wouldn't refuse to buy Nvidia because of it though,
doing so doesn't make sense.
I imagine I'm not alone in being sick to death of being labelled because of an opinion that doesn't
fit in with that of the labeller.

old gamer · 30 Sep 2017 at 11:10

Panos said:
Of course, always

Did you try switching it off and on again

Panos · 30 Sep 2017 at 11:53

old gamer said:
Did you try switching it off and on again

muahahahah

heartburnron · 30 Sep 2017 at 12:44

AMDMatt said:
Forza 7 looking good for AMD & Vega 64, thanks to instruction prefetching.
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-09...afikkartenbenchmarks_von_full_hd_bis_ultra_hd

Same tech as used in Dirt 4.

Ah how refreshing to see something positive. Exciting too given that you would expect it to be in the interest of most developers for new games to utilise this for the new 4K capable consoles. Have you shared this in the Vega bashing thread, er... I mean the Vega review thread?

LtMatt · 30 Sep 2017 at 13:14

heartburnron said:
Ah how refreshing to see something positive. Exciting too given that you would expect it to be in the interest of most developers for new games to utilise this for the new 4K capable consoles. Have you shared this in the Vega bashing thread, er... I mean the Vega review thread?

It will get lost in all the bashing from non owners, figured it might go down better with actual owners.

Bonjour · 30 Sep 2017 at 13:33

Very pleased with my (air) Vega 64 so far. Definitely a worthy upgrade from my previous Crossfired 290Xs (and then 390s) to accompany my 1440p/144Hz Freesync monitor, though I was very close to getting one of the AIO 1080s when they were on special here. Hoping for further improvements down the line as games utilise more features and drivers mature. Has been great in VR so far also (mainly Robo Recall).

heartburnron · 30 Sep 2017 at 13:52

AMDMatt said:
It will get lost in all the bashing from non owners, figured it might go down better with actual owners.

True. It's not a very nice place to frequent...

old gamer · 30 Sep 2017 at 14:24

AMDMatt said:
Forza 7 looking good for AMD & Vega 64, thanks to instruction prefetching.
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-09...afikkartenbenchmarks_von_full_hd_bis_ultra_hd

Same tech as used in Dirt 4.

Just look at the little 56 giving what for

sharmanov · 1 Oct 2017 at 07:54

My Current Setup + Eyefinity

Kaapstad · 1 Oct 2017 at 10:18

sharmanov said:
My Current Setup + Eyefinity

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Narfi · 1 Oct 2017 at 11:20

Hi all,
I have a problem with hot spot temperature on my Vega 64 LC on balanced profile (tested on Witcher 3), sometimes is even 90C+. My PC case is very good ventilated with 4 fans, so im not sure.
Maybe Noctua nh-d15 on my Ryzen 1800x is a problem and generate additional heat into the card, but Ryzen never reached more than 60 celsius.

SumpNut · 1 Oct 2017 at 13:29

Hi All,

I purchased Vega64 a couple of weeks back for my new PC build (Ryzen 1700 based), unfortunately I've been plagued by crashing issues.

I've begun to round it down to being GPU related as the Crimson software is always dead following a crash. I thought I had it solved when I realised the fan limit was set to 49% as default, this resulted in the card thermal throttling when in game. I quick adjustment to fan and temperature targets, throttling was gone and I thought all was well. However, the crashes are still there. Maybe not as prevalent as before, but it is definitely unstable, particularly in Ashes of the Singularity, but also in Overwatch.

So can I ask, does anyone else have unstable crimson software/constant crashes (all driver versions, 17.9.3 was particularly bad)?

Does anyone else' system thermally throttle like mad on the default settings?

I'm actually beginning to wonder if I have a duff card, I cant find much online with respect to these issues.

Thanks
Daniel

shankly1985 · 1 Oct 2017 at 13:38

Very interesting info here worth a share I think. Seem you really can get a lot out of VEGA just under voltage alone! @AMDMatt is they a reason AMD seem to release GPU with Voltage way higher than what is needed?

I just got done doing a lot of benchmarks using various settings with UNIGINE's Superposition benchmark and thought I'd share the results. This is a good benchmark to run because it is 4k and consumes a lot of power which will result in power throttling at stock settings. I have recorded benchmark results for AMD's default settings 'POWER SAVE', 'BALANCED', and 'TURBO', as well as the max stable OC I could get from 860-1080mV, or as set in wattman, 900-1125mV.

Some information (Skip to RESULTS if you wish):

The lowest voltage I could get to stick was 860mV, anything lower would crash at even 1000MHz. Getting 860mV involved setting 900mV in wattman. Any voltage you set in Wattman will be lower by around 30-50mV, at least according to GPU-z's sensor readings. If you are going to do your own testing, be sure to lower the memory voltage to the voltage you are testing on the core. This does not change the HBM voltage and as I understand, the setting acts as a voltage floor.

Any frequency set in Wattman is going to be lower in testing. The frequency you end up with seems based on the frequency you set and the voltage you set.

For this reason, you could set the frequency to 1700MHz and the voltage to 1100mV in wattman, possibly resulting in a frequency of of 1600MHz in benchmarks and games. You would expect that increasing the voltage would increase stability, however since increasing the voltage also increases the frequency you get in games and benchmarks you might end up with less stability or crashing, making undervolting using Wattman a bit of a juggling act.

Sapphire Trixx is a semi-good tool for undervolting since it removes the juggling act, you can set a -100mV offset and change the frequency freely. This can lead to some instability at lower frequencies since your offset will be subtracted from your voltage constantly, even at idle.

Anyway, here's the RESULTS:

(Images, including all GPU-z sensor data: https://imgur.com/a/JgLXU )

Starting with AMD's three default profiles.

POWER SAVE ~915mV - Maximum frequency was 1261MHz with a 945MHz memory clock.

Score: 5,419

MAX WATTS: 167W

MAX TEMPS (GPU/HOTSPOT/HBM): IGNORE, did not run this one at 4,900RPM

BALANCED ~1050mV - Maximum frequency was 1437MHz with a 945MHz memory clock.

Score: 5,999

MAX WATTS: 222W

MAX TEMPS (GPU/HOTSPOT/HBM): 61C/74C/66C

TURBO ~1050-1150mV - Average frequency was 1480MHz with a 945MHz memory clock.

Score: 6,199

MAX WATTS: 256W

MAX TEMPS (GPU/HOTSPOT/HBM): 65C/81C/70C

UNDERVOLTING & OVERCLOCKING 50%+ Power limit on all

860mV - Maximum stable core frequency was an average of 1400MHz, and maximum stable memory frequency was 1100MHz.

Score: 6,243

MAX WATTS: 170W

MAX TEMPS (GPU/HOTSPOT/HBM): 51C/59C/56C

912mV - Maximum stable core frequency was an average of 1488MHz, and maximum stable memory frequency was 1100MHz.

Score: 6,430

MAX WATTS: 199W

MAX TEMPS (GPU/HOTSPOT/HBM): 55C/65C/60C

950mV - Maximum stable core frequency was an average of 1530MHz, and maximum stable memory frequency was 1100MHz.

Score: 6,654

MAX WATTS: 225W

MAX TEMPS (GPU/HOTSPOT/HBM): 60C/72C/65C

1000mV - Maximum stable core frequency was an average of 1560MHz, and maximum stable memory frequency was 1100MHz.

Score: 6,756

MAX WATTS: 257W

MAX TEMPS (GPU/HOTSPOT/HBM): 65C/78C/70C

1050mV - Maximum stable core frequency was an average of 1605MHz, and maximum stable memory frequency was 1080MHz. It is at this point which my HBM temperature was too high and started artifacting at 1100MHz and I had to bring it down 20MHz

Score: 6,838

MAX WATTS: 288W

MAX TEMPS (GPU/HOTSPOT/HBM): 70C/85C/76C

1063mV - Maximum stable core frequency was an average of 1620MHz, and maximum stable memory frequency was 1080MHz.

Score: 6,886

MAX WATTS: 321W

MAX TEMPS (GPU/HOTSPOT/HBM): 73C/90C/79C

1080mV - Maximum stable core frequency was an average of 1630MHz, and maximum stable memory frequency was 1080MHz.

Score: 6,900

MAX WATTS: 331W

MAX TEMPS (GPU/HOTSPOT/HBM): 75C/93C/82C

Increasing the voltage past this point either results in no overclocking improvement or produces too much heat to the point of thermal throttling, or requires too much power to the point of thermal throttling.

CONCLUSIONS

860mV UV/OC consumes roughly 51% (half) the power that the 1080mV OC consumes, but still manages to score within 10% of the 1080mV's score, while also producing much lower temperatures.

Credit Goes to EugeneHaroldKrabs Over at Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/73ikda/rx_vega_extreme_undervolting_overclocking_and/

Freddie1980 · 1 Oct 2017 at 16:25

Narfi said:
Hi all,
I have a problem with hot spot temperature on my Vega 64 LC on balanced profile (tested on Witcher 3), sometimes is even 90C+. My PC case is very good ventilated with 4 fans, so im not sure.
Maybe Noctua nh-d15 on my Ryzen 1800x is a problem and generate additional heat into the card, but Ryzen never reached more than 60 celsius.

Is 30% fan speed normal on an AIO under load? I would suggest looking at the post above mine and consider undervolting and see where that gets you.

opethdisciple · 1 Oct 2017 at 16:54

I committed blasphemy didn't I by paring my Ryzen with an Nvidia card! :eek:

Unholy alliance.

sharmanov · 1 Oct 2017 at 17:27

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