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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

This release is not an evolutionary improvement. This launch will be a REvolutionary leap forward. Perhaps the most significant innovation in PC hardware in a very long time. Perhaps one of the top innovations of the century.
 
The new AMD chips are going to be insane, I just really hope they're released sooner than April because I really dont want to wait that long
 
CuriousTomCat said:
I doubt you'll have to wait that long for Ryzen 3. I'm waiting for Navi as well as Ryzen 3 so I'm probably stuck for the next 9 months.
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Sin_Chase said:
I don't imagine AMD will hang about on launching it.
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well based on zen and zen+, the most mainstream chips were released on April 2017 and April 2018 :( I mean I know its not exactly a HUGE wait, but id much rather they announce it next week and have it available to buy a few weeks after that in early feb
 
Sin_Chase said:
They'll probably want something that will comfortably beat the top consumer Intel chip out pronto to start eating into would be i7 buyers.
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Well lets hope you're right! Me personally, Im good with the 3600 chip, and with a slight overclock it will be a beast of a chip
 
humbug said:
I did and the only disagreement it has with me is stating a 3% IPC gain as opposed to my 4%.

If you see something in it that does disagree with me please point me to it, and don't try and data bomb, if you know what you're talking about you can point right at it.
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I already did that...
Murphy said:
.....they're fundamentally different, 14nm uses 9 tracks whereas 12nm uses 7.5, 14nm cells height is 576nm whereas 12nm is only 480nm, the contact areas are different, the height of the contact barrier is different, and the fins are thinner and taller, it's not as you originally stated built on low power mobile node.
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That's not a data bomb that's about as basic as you can get when talking about the differences between nodes.

I mean seriously if reading two sentences and three pages consisting mainly of pretty pictures is to much for you then like i said it's probably best if we agree to disagree as you're clearly not interested in educating yourself or as i previously said you're being purposefully obstinate for no reason.

EsaT said:
I've read from few clearly knowleable (about CPU design and manufacturing) people that AMD didn't even use much of those/changes are really minor to not need much of chip redesign.
There's lots of R&D cost in making real physical changes to chip and retesting everything etc.
Something AMD really couldn't afford to waste resources, with lot bigger goal of 7nm and maturing Zen architecture in Zen2 in mind.
(+ Intel's 10nm plans to catch up)
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Oh for sure, in fact GloFlo main selling point for 12nm was that companies/manufactures didn't need to respin their designs, they could port existing 14nm designs to 12nm without the typical expense (time & testing) involved in doing that, it was basically a free, or near enough, upgrade.

RE: Intel's 10nm, from what i understand TSMC 7nm and Intel's 10nm are fairly close in terms of density, although i suspect TSMC, and by extensions AMD, may have a small lead on Intel as it seems
 
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Praz94 said:
I just really hope they're released sooner than April because I really dont want to wait that long
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same - my ryzen 5 1600 was a breath of fresh air and while I have literally zero reason to upgrade, if these rumours/leaks are even close to being true i'll be on it like a car bonnet :p
 
Thekwango said:
same - my ryzen 5 1600 was a breath of fresh air and while I have literally zero reason to upgrade, if these rumours/leaks are even close to being true i'll be on it like a car bonnet :p
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Exactly. i was set on just getting the 2600 soon, but buying that now would be the same performance (if not worse) than the Ryzen 3 thats coming out. Essentially worse than the bottom tier chip of next gen.. it just seems silly to buy a 2nd gen cip right now with the 3k series being right on the horizon. Only way I see that being justified if there's a sudden price crash
 
Looking forward to dropping a 3700x into my x470 and using the 2600 for a gift build for my father. ( I'm just such a lovely son, no really)
 
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