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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Samsung B-Die are still the best, that goes for Intel too but really the differences between it and other 3200Mhz memory is 5%, that's with current Ryzen, it may not matter at all with Ryzen 3000.
 
My own testing when i first got it...

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Does anyone have any good links with RAM info for Ryzen? Whats best/ideal? :)

I've looked online and it seems like a mess of info due to mixed reports from when Ryzen was first introduced.

I recon just go in on the cheapest b-die you can afford. Ram is still very expensive imo, I just checked what I paid for 64gb 3466 bdie and what it costs for the same kits now and it's still more expensive than what I paid a year and a half ago. I bought 2 kits of G.SKILL F4-3466C16Q-32GTZR Trident Z RGB for £780 the very same kits today are at around £475 each so £950 for which is obscene.
 
I've had two sets of the Team group Vulcan 2 x 8gb 3000mhz ram in both an intel and Ryzen rigs and they performed flwlessly in both and they both overclocked to 3200mhz with no problems or issues at all, and they're the cheapest too I think.
 
I am not really interested in overclocking, I'd rather just spend the extra for a high base/standard clock and leave it at that. :)
 
Does anyone have any good links with RAM info for Ryzen? Whats best/ideal? :)

I've looked online and it seems like a mess of info due to mixed reports from when Ryzen was first introduced.

The best Samsung b-die based sticks you can afford is still the way forward. Not QUITE as desperately needed as it was but still what Ryzen2 has a preference for.
 
Hardware Unboxed have made some pretty bold claims of their own.

They say they have inside information that there will be no Ryzen 3000 or Navi reveal, its all BS apparently, the leaks, the specifications they are rubbishing all of it, they say AMD might do some teaser about the fact that they exist, but that's it, no specifications... nothing.

This would be a complete waste of the attention AMD have for the first time hosting the CES Keynote, to go on stage and do nothing at all to show off their products to the world as its watching, its also a very bold move by Hardware Unboxed to rubbish everything, if they got this wrong their reputation for info accuracy will be forever tainted.

https://youtu.be/JrQVNYmdINQ?t=129
 
Hardware Unboxed have made some pretty bold claims of their own.

They say they have inside information that there will be no Ryzen 3000 or Navi reveal, its all BS apparently, the leaks, the specifications they are rubbishing all of it, they say AMD might do some teaser about the fact that they exist, but that's it, no specifications... nothing.

This would be a complete waste of the attention AMD have for the first time hosting the CES Keynote, to go on stage and do nothing at all to show off their products to the world as its watching, its also a very bold move by Hardware Unboxed to rubbish everything, if they got this wrong their reputation for info accuracy will be forever tainted.

https://youtu.be/JrQVNYmdINQ?t=129

If amd did that it would literally be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
 
If amd did that it would literally be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Yeah it makes no sense, AMD's public profile has been growing with Ryzen and now they have the tech world watching with hosting the CES Keynote, to squander that opportunity and talk about cheese would be mind boggling.
 
Hardware Unboxed have made some pretty bold claims of their own.

They say they have inside information that there will be no Ryzen 3000 or Navi reveal, its all BS apparently, the leaks, the specifications they are rubbishing all of it, they say AMD might do some teaser about the fact that they exist, but that's it, no specifications... nothing.

This would be a complete waste of the attention AMD have for the first time hosting the CES Keynote, to go on stage and do nothing at all to show off their products to the world as its watching, its also a very bold move by Hardware Unboxed to rubbish everything, if they got this wrong their reputation for info accuracy will be forever tainted.

https://youtu.be/JrQVNYmdINQ?t=129

For using so aggressive and uncivilised words, I can only say one word in German about HU, Ar*****h :D
 
Well now, this will be interesting.

AdoredTV is lying about having an insider or his insider is lying to him.
or
Hardware Unboxed is lying about having an inside or their insider is lying to them.


With such extreme claims made by both parties, both of the above cannot be true.
 
Methinks short term click bait of the lowest calibre.

That could back fire, because to rubbish everything to such an extent if there is anything the community will not let them off lightly, they need to be sure AMD want to talk about Cheese.
 
Oh for sure, in fact GloFlo main selling point for 12nm was that companies/manufactures didn't need to respin their designs, they could port existing 14nm designs to 12nm without the typical expense (time & testing) involved in doing that, it was basically a free, or near enough, upgrade.

RE: Intel's 10nm, from what i understand TSMC 7nm and Intel's 10nm are fairly close in terms of density, although i suspect TSMC, and by extensions AMD, may have a small lead on Intel as it seems
Hence it really can't have much of change. Neither did die size change.
So whole naming was really just marketing.

And while needed volts dropped little, there's no zone where clock speed increases with no/minimal voltage increase.
It's all in linear, or higher voltage increase per clock zone:
r7-1700-vs-2700x-volt-frequency-1.png



You're correct that Intel's 10nm and TSMC's 7nm should be pretty comparable.
Number difference is about how they measure differently.
Though now it's not sure how comparable they will be.
In original roadmaps before Intel's node development started developing problems, 10nm was supposed to start production in end of 2015.
So considering it still being completely FUBAR in last year and unable to produce even small low clock laptop CPUs, it might come out in some watered down form.

And that also puts huge question mark about true schedule of next node Intel has already advertised:
It's pretty hard to climb to higher in tree, if you can't even reach that first branch!
So would keep it pretty good bet, that from now on AMD and Intel CPUs are going to made on pretty comparable fab tech.

In fact TSMC is likely lot bigger than Intel's foundry department, considering their sales/revenue being half of whole Intel:
http://www.icinsights.com/news/bulletins/tsmc-continues-to-dominate-the-worldwide-foundry-market/
 
Well now, this will be interesting.

AdoredTV is lying about having an insider or his insider is lying to him.
or
Hardware Unboxed is lying about having an inside or their insider is lying to them.


With such extreme claims made by both parties, both of the above cannot be true.

I think the truth will be something in the middle, i just can't believe even AMD would not see the opportunity they have to showcase themselves and instead talk about what?
 
The best Samsung b-die based sticks you can afford is still the way forward. Not QUITE as desperately needed as it was but still what Ryzen2 has a preference for.
Thanks to you (and everyone else) for the fast responses.

The rate this thread is moving is staggering. I don't think I've ever seen so much attention surrounding some CPU & (hopeful) GPU announcements. Its incredibly exciting!
 
I think AMD will want to show off everything they can. I'm sure they would love to whip out a 16 core am4 cpu at near 5ghz and destroy a 9900k with it and equally if they can show off a $300 GPU that goes toe to toe with a 2070 they will, and these things may be on the horizon, but we don't know that they have them, or that they are ready to launch.

The CES keynote could very well just be them talking about how great their stock as been doing in the last 24 months, and how they managed to drag themselves back into the fight. And talking about how power efficient vega 2 is and how cost effective epyc is.

I hope we get exciting fun stuff, but I think we need to try avoid getting too hyped up.... If all they do is show a couple promising demos and say "we'll see more in the summer" many people will be disappointed, but I don't think we need to be.
 
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