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8 Pack said:
I would take the potato every day its great carbs...

Now sorry an exam


Simply higher clocks pulling TDP up.

I tested a couple of b450 boards for systems and these where fine with the 6 core with 3200mhz c14. Also fine with new apu. But in both instances efficiency was short by a fair bit clock for clock vs x570.

RAM wise 3600c16 kit of 8Pack stuff running c14 makes absolute sense 1:1 with IF. I tried this in every x570 board we have for test and working fine...
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Good news :) Do you think 3600Mhz C14 is possible with a X470 board like a C7 Hero? I got a 3600C16 kit last week in preparation for Ryzen 3000
 
kitfit1 said:
Of course 3600 C14 is possible on X470, hell, i'm at 3533 C14 with an X370. The question has to be asked of yourself though, why did you buy a 3600 C16 kit when you obviously want to run 3600 C14 ?
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Because it is still B Die, I dont think you can get 3600c14 out of the box kit or at least I havent seen one. I had a 3200c14 G Skill kit before but swapped it. Paid £250 for it when memory was expensive (yes I was a bit dumb) and returned it recently and paid £150 for an 8Pack kit.
 
Nghtmare said:
Because it is still B Die, I dont think you can get 3600c14 out of the box kit or at least I havent seen one. I had a 3200c14 G Skill kit before but swapped it. Paid £250 for it when memory was expensive (yes I was a bit dumb) and returned it recently and paid £150 for an 8Pack kit.
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That explains it lol :D Yes it will run 3600 C14, it will need Ryzen Dram Calculator and a hefty rise in voltage but it will do it. If you are going to be using it with a Ryzen 2 cpu, 3733 C15/16 would be much better though.
 
8 Pack said:
I would take the potato every day its great carbs...

Now sorry an exam


Simply higher clocks pulling TDP up.

I tested a couple of b450 boards for systems and these where fine with the 6 core with 3200mhz c14. Also fine with new apu. But in both instances efficiency was short by a fair bit clock for clock vs x570.

RAM wise 3600c16 kit of 8Pack stuff running c14 makes absolute sense 1:1 with IF. I tried this in every x570 board we have for test and working fine...
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What volt@ge?
 
alec said:
For me it has nothing to do with web browsing itself. Rather those benchmarks highlight the low latency low load tasks.
Which sums pretty well your desktop experience, where your cpu is not 100% loaded, not even on one core. But you can still tell a difference between a slow cpu and fast one by how responsive your actions feel and how fast applications load.
These are not unimportant. This is how you spend bulk of time behind the computer. Running [badly optimized] interactive programs.
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I guarantee to you, give people access to something like a Kaveri A10 APU and a Kaby Lake Pentium, and 90% will not be able to tell the difference. It matters to those only that like to see larger (or smaller in this case) numbers.


Phil Gr said:
I’m not up to speed with new kit anymore. - would one of these new processors be a big step up from a 5280k ???
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The 3600 is the entry-level Zen 2 chip, and it is almost 30% faster in both single- and multi-threaded workloads.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-5820K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600/2579vs4040
 
8 Pack said:
I tested a couple of b450 boards for systems and these where fine with the 6 core with 3200mhz c14. Also fine with new apu. But in both instances efficiency was short by a fair bit clock for clock vs x570.
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This had been my main concern. My plan had been to buy a B450 Carbon to go with the 3700x, although if boost clocks and mem compatibility is better in x570 that would probably change things.
 
Zoroaster said:
This had been my main concern. My plan had been to buy a B450 Carbon to go with the 3700x, although if boost clocks and mem compatibility is better in x570 that would probably change things.
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X470 Aorus 7 for £200-20 , taichi x470 £190 ..

I think these boards will fly off the shelves.

Looking at the Aorus 7, just under the X570 Pro looking shy of £250 and above the Elite which guessing comes in £209 and Gaming X with a spinach of Salt £150 odd
 
Zoroaster said:
This had been my main concern. My plan had been to buy a B450 Carbon to go with the 3700x, although if boost clocks and mem compatibility is better in x570 that would probably change things.
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Likely any decent current board would reach 3600MHz.
Problem has really been memory controller.

Higher memory clocks than 3733MHz are likely problematic/futile for gaming, because of halved InfinityFabric speed notably increasing memory latency and inter-CCX communication latency.
 
orbitalwalsh said:
X470 Aorus 7 for £200-20 , taichi x470 £190 ..

I think these boards will fly off the shelves.

Looking at the Aorus 7, just under the X570 Pro looking shy of £250 and above the Elite which guessing comes in £209 and Gaming X with a spinach of Salt £150 odd
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As you may remember, I have an £800 budget for mobo and cpu. I was planning on getting the 3800 and the GB extreme. However, do you think I should stick with that combination or should I drop down to an ultra or pro mobo, but grab a 3900 instead?

I would have thought the cpu would make a bigger difference than a better motherboard.
 
robfosters said:
As you may remember, I have an £800 budget for mobo and cpu. I was planning on getting the 3800 and the GB extreme. However, do you think I should stick with that combination or should I drop down to an ultra or pro mobo, but grab a 3900 instead?

I would have thought the cpu would make a bigger difference than a better motherboard.
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That's the way I am currently looking at it, the main thing is the CPU as the previous real world difference between x370 and x470 when overclocking was minimal. I will let the earlier adopters find out and see how the prices go.
 
That board is so expensive that even if I was given one for free, I'd sell it on and buy one far cheaper.

I'm gonna get either one of the lowest X570s or wait for B550.
 
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