2008 Japanese GP - Race 16/18

NathanE said:
Bourdais was in front, had the line and didn't even touch Massa. Massa spun on the corner all on his own accord.
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Bourdais was only ahead of him entering the corner and they definitely did touch, though Massa was ahead when they touched.

It was just 2 cars coming together in the same place. Unless Bourdais has just blatantly cut across the apex or something (which we couldn't see), then it's a terrible decision in my opinion. It was nothing like the Massa-Hamilton situation.


NightSt@lk3r said:
You really love Hamilton don't you.
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Are Hamilton fanboys blind or something? He clearly said he hopes Lewis doesn't fall apart and repeat 2007, yet you go and pick the only negative part of his post.
 
NightSt@lk3r said:
Where in knip's post he quoted is Hamilton or anything related to him in this race mentioned yet he still brings Hamilton into it.
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*sigh*

I take then that you don't consider 'handing the title to Massa' to be a somewhat related topic to the current championship leader who is - heavens! - Lewis Hamilton....interesting.
 
So, after today considering the Bordais' incident who will deny that something is operating behind the scenes in Ferrari's favour. Im not saying its the FIA, or that Ferrari even have anything to do with it. Someone is disgruntled behind the scenes and I dont think it takes a rocket science to have a few good guesses.
 
Kimi said both McLaren's hit him in turn 1, and that the hit from Heikki was the harderst, wonder why he was not given a penalty? Seems a bit off to me as yesterday we had Norbert Haug saying how he hoped Kimi would be fair with Lewis and they could use Heikki to interfere with Kimi.
 
NicktheNorse said:
Maybe I'm confused after having gotten up at silly o'clock this morning but I still don't see it.

Surely it's a much greater achievement in the current situation for a Renault to be beating a Ferrari?
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I think I also mis read it from being up since 5 this morning lol :o.

I can't believe that Bourdais got a penalty! That's utterly ridiculous, how on earth can they justify that?! A lot of people complain that recently the problem with F1 is that there isn't enough overtaking. But for me it's these stupid decisions made off track that had made this season a farce.

I would have thought that nothing would have come from that collision, as it was Massas fault and he suffered the consequences from it and lost time, but if anyone would have got a penalty it seemed obvious that it should have been Massa, but to now give Bourdais a penalty for it is lunacy. :mad:
 
So, conspiracy theory time.... ;) :D

On lap 51 - Bourdais is coming out of the pits, has the inner line for the corner and at the corner entry is in front of Massa.

Massa hits bourdais and spins. Bourdais continues on as normal.

Lap 56 - it's announced that the incodent will be investigated after the race - 11 laps from the end.

It took 6 laps to announce the drive throughs for Massa and Hamilton *lap 12 to lap 18*

Why did it take 11 laps and then over an hour after the race before the punishment was announced? Albiet the wrong punishment.

Were they awaiting to see where Massa finished so they could punish accordingly?
 
They said it was being investigated after the race, something they normally do if its not clear cut so they can speak to the drivers. So only took 5 laps to announce.
 
I just can't figure out how the person who is on the inside of the corner and is turned into by the person on the outside of the corner is responsible...

Just completely strange
 
Flibster said:
I just can't figure out how the person who is on the inside of the corner and is turned into by the person on the outside of the corner is responsible...

Just completely strange
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Yep as I keep saying you shouldn't be able to turn in and not leave the car on the inside room.

Every year I fall out of interest with F1 a little bit more.
 
peeved off I stayed up all night to watch a race once more ruined by idoitoic steward decisions

was going to attend a race next year no chance now i'm not giving these idoits any of my cash until they sort out these stupid rules
 
gord said:
So, after today considering the Bordais' incident who will deny that something is operating behind the scenes in Ferrari's favour. Im not saying its the FIA, or that Ferrari even have anything to do with it. Someone is disgruntled behind the scenes and I dont think it takes a rocket science to have a few good guesses.
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Yep - Bourdais penalty was a complete joke. Unbelievable.
 
NightSt@lk3r (and everyone else, come to think of it) - could you answer this post I made please? It'd save me a lot of unnecessary effort if I knew just what the hell would work with you all?

I mean - I bump up the font size, I use uncomplicated language, I even try italicising it and putting it in bold and underlining it. I repeat it over and over.

What'll work with you??

NathanE said:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/10/1...ot-wron-video/

It's a good point. It's actually Heikki that forces KR off track. LH barely does anything to KR at all! All hypothetical though because LH would have still had to pit for tyres anyway after that terrible start.
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So the stewards determined that he fell foul of article 16.1. Now, as the article says - how come Hamilton didn't get a penalty* for forcing Glock off the road at Monza?

It'll be inconsistency that kills this sport, not the credit crunch....

* - McLaren International Assistance? Surely not!
 
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