580 GTX Price is up....

james.miller · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:00

RavenXXX2 said:
Wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia are not impressed the way Wizz benches Dirt2 in DX9 giving AMD the performance advantage, in DX11 Nvidia walks it in Dirt2.

Can't understand why he did that, given the visual differences between the two. it'd be understandable if there werent any but...

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,...mpared-Top-article-of-December-2009/Practice/

makes no sense to me :confused:

RavenXXX2 · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:02

Yeah exactly what I told him on the forums over there, he agreed to do future tests in DX11 but as of yet he has not.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=2063219&postcount=35

james.miller · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:07

odd, he stand to loose more in credibility than anything he might gain through cheating the benchmarks.

There's seriously so few decent sites you can trust these days. The reviewers are either in the pockets of the manufacturers or they just seem to have an axe to grind.

Gerard · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:17

RavenXXX2 said:
Wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia are not impressed the way Wizz benches Dirt2 in DX9 giving AMD the performance advantage, in DX11 Nvidia walks it in Dirt2.

Pretty sure this dicscussion was had the other day with plenty of sites giving the edge in dirt 2 to amd.

RavenXXX2 · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:18

In DX11, lol take another look.

Gerard · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:21

RavenXXX2 said:
In DX11, lol take another look.

Here you go

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/26/nvidia_fermi_gtx_470_480_sli_review/6

*eagerly awaits the "biased" rhetoric*

RavenXXX2 · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:26

Here have some reviews from the past month.

queamin · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:28

james.miller said:
odd, he stand to loose more in credibility than anything he might gain through cheating the benchmarks.

There's seriously so few decent sites you can trust these days. The reviewers are either in the pockets of the manufacturers or they just seem to have an axe to grind.

I agree

On Nvidia pricing they will be very high until Amd gets their cards out then I think they will adjust them

Gerard · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:29

RavenXXX2 said:
Here have some reviews from the past month.

Maybe those reviews would have some point if they weren't just running a timedemo instead of playing the actual game.

RavenXXX2 · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:30

lol it's the built in benchmark, with actual real time gameplay, can't get more accurate.

Gerard · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:31

RavenXXX2 said:
lol it's the built in benchmark, with actual real time gameplay, can't get more accurate.

Built in benchmarks don't count for anything, it was proved a while back that the majority of them have artificial numbers compared to actually playing the game. Theres very few games that have a benchmark that actually replicate gameplay performance, farcry 2 was one of them.

RavenXXX2 · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:40

I had a 5870, the 480 blows it away in DX11, and not just the benchmark, which is a perfect replication of in game performance. If you ran it you would know.

Gerard · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:42

RavenXXX2 said:
I had a 5870, the 480 blows it away in DX11, and not just the benchmark, which is a perfect replication of in game performance. If you ran it you would know.

Well how about you read this which shows just how flawed the crysis benchmark utility is for instance. That casts doubt on just about all the canned benchmark tools.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article/2008/02/11/benchmarking_benchmarks/1

RavenXXX2 · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:44

Try tech spot they normally do fraps runs but...

Dirt 2 Benchmarks
Dirt 2 has a fantastic built-in benchmark tool that measures actual gameplay performance very accurately, so we closed Fraps for this title. The game was run in the DirectX 11 mode with 4xAA enabled and the best visual quality settings.

http://www.techspot.com/review/325-amd-radeon-6870/page5.html

Gerard · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:49

RavenXXX2 said:
Try tech spot they normally do fraps runs but...

http://www.techspot.com/review/325-amd-radeon-6870/page5.html

So you call 9fps "blowing" it away? If thats the case then what does the 5970 do to the 480? Bend it over and make it scream daddy? :eek:

theron · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:50

hardocp is the one i trust 100% of the time. flawless and unbiased

RavenXXX2 · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:52

Gerard said:
So you call 9fps "blowing" it away? If thats the case then what does the 5970 do to the 480? Bend it over and make it scream daddy?

At max rez it's closer but under that 480 walks it.

Now how many more charts showing fermi dominating in DX11 Dirt2 do you want to see.

Gerard · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:54

RavenXXX2 said:
gibber.jpg

Is that meant to be an answer or yet another random site posting results with different settings?

RavenXXX2 · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:56

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce-gtx480-sli_10.html#sect1

Another class site.

Gerard · 5 Nov 2010 at 20:58

RavenXXX2 said:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce-gtx480-sli_10.html#sect1

Another class site.

Do you just have a load of benchmarks favourited that just happen to favour your current card or something? :confused: