0-60 in 5 secs and 15,00 what car ?

D4VE said:
Dont get me wrong Im not attacking AWD, it would be my choice over FWD anyday.
Its just very shallow to base car choice on 0-60 time, Im simply trying to expand the original posters thinking.

On my daily drive I use the motorway and so 60-80mph performance is more important than 0-60 to me.
Trust me I know, its lacking in my car and I really notice it. :(
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i dont do much motorway driving. Most of my driving is done on roads with 30/40/50 limits. Thus a car that can do quick standing starts (good 0-60) and with good grip levels (4wd) is ideal for me. And when i do drive on the motorway, ill never need the acceleration, as i spend most of my time cruising at 80 in the outside lane moving over ocassionaly to let BMWs past lol

and i dont see the problem in requiring a car that has quick acceleration. I want a car thats fast, and 0-60 is a good yardstick of this. If any1 knows anywhere that keeps a range of mid speed times (40-60 etc..) then ill gladly have a look. But manufacturers dont seem to keep this kind of info.

anyway, my shortlist looks something like this :

'03 Impreza STI
E39 M5
Early Audi S4

had a look at forrester 2.5 XT. Just doesnt do it for me in the same way the M5/S4/STI do.

Found this on auto trader :

E39 M5 :

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2000 BMW M5 5.0 V84 Doors, Manual 6 speed, Saloon, Petrol, 116,000 miles, Le Mans Blue, MOT-09-2006, 1 Owner. Full Caramel Nappa Leather, uprated stereo. Massive specification including climate control, cruise control, etc etc. "M5" private plate. Full Main Dealer service history, this is a one driver car from new. (Stock No. 66) Portway Motor Centre. The UK's Largest Vehicle Brokers £13,950

and loving this impreza on pistonheads :

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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/64454.htm

And only 1 S4 on auto trader under 25k. And that was in a horrible navy colour :(. Only 7 results found for an S4 in total. None on the audi network under 30k. Looks like im not exactly going to be spoilt for choice for S4s
 
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I personally wouldn't spend £14k on a 116,000 mile M5, there are a few S4's around, but not a huge amount.

There's a 2001 Avant, 42k miles, on Autotrader for £15k.
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there are more saloons around though, and they seem a little cheaper :)
 
Rotty said:
with the current state of the market for used Imprezas he's going to have to seriously cut the price to shift it no matter how nice it is
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what sort of price should he be selling at

notice the JDM STI in the link above this is having trouble selling too.
 
MrLOL said:
what sort of price should he be selling at

notice the JDM STI in the link above this is having trouble selling too.
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My car ( 2004 reg , 53 plate ) 37k miles and just gone for £12.5k in p/ex , privately 2 year old cars ( that sell ) are fetching around £13.5k and £14k with PPP , this is for average miles , it's very depressing ( unless you are buying of course )


that one is worth about £14.5k as it has high spec and is in great condition


re the Jap one andi posted , 52 plate for £16k , he is seriously deluded
 
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Matt said:
I personally wouldn't spend £14k on a 116,000 mile M5,
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Probably becuase you view it is just another BMW, when infact it's a 4 door supercar pretty much.

Which I guess, however, means huge running costs..
 
[TW]Fox said:
Probably becuase you view it is just another BMW, when infact it's a 4 door supercar pretty much.

Which I guess, however, means huge running costs..
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exactly!

people sacrifice performance for mileage and age all to often, think that is what separates the avid car nuts from the norm when price becomes a factor
 
Have not read the whole thread and don't know if a cars ages is of bother to ya........but how about a lotus carlton :)

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http://www.lotus-carltons.co.uk/


3.6 litre, straight six-cylinder 24v engine. 0 - 60 mph in 4.8* secs.
Twin Garrett T25 turbochargers. 0 - 100 mph in 10.6* secs.
Power output: 377bhp* @ 5200 rpm. Max speed 175+ mph.
Torque (peak): 419lbs/ft* @ 4200rpm.
Gearbox: ZF 6-speed manual.
Final gear ratio 0.50 = 44.1 mph per 1000 engine rpm.
ie; 80 mph = 1800 rpm & 100 mph = 2200 rpm.
Front wheels: 8 ½J with 235 45 ZR17
Rear wheels: 9 ½J with 265 40 ZR17


Although I think they might be as rare as rocking horse pooh though :(
 
MrLOL said:
needs to be 4 door family sized car. Mx5 etc.. are totally out of the question as im going to struggle to afford anything decent, let alone 2 cars.
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Didn't you say you had 15k to spend?
 
Hesky82 said:
manufacturer's 0-60 times not "google search 0-60 results" :p
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Manufacturer's 0-60 times are notoriously wrong in many cases, I prefer to go by road tests by independent journalists, plenty of those times don't tally with what I've read.

Anyway 0-60 is irrelivent its in-gear 30 > 50 times that have far more meaning on the open road.

0-60 times are suitable for pub talk, little else.

:p
 
R124/LA420 said:
Anyway 0-60 is irrelivent its in-gear 30 > 50 times that have far more meaning on the open road.

0-60 times are suitable for pub talk, little else.

:p
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You don’t need to tell me that, I'm only doing as the thread title requested :)
Yeah what you say is of course true. Although 30-70 would separate the beasts from the close ratio cheats :D.
In all honesty I personally wouldn’t use these criteria’s to choose a car.
 
jonarob said:
ESCORT COSWORTH?!?!?

Am I being silly?
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I was going to say that! :p Or a Sierra (Sapphire) Cosworth, stage 1 conversion (or stage 2) - you could get a mint (probably low mileage as well) one for 7 - 10k.
It's said that they are better on fuel after they had the stage 1 conversion as well - how true this is I don't know.
 
I think it would be unfair to recommend cars that require tuning to get them to meet requirements.
although I love the sapphire cosworth and would love to tune that yb turbo motor :cool:
 
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