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[bigredshark]

Is wireless not more likely to provide a long-term solution than re-wiring the entire UK?

Surely they can eventually come up with something that will allow ultra fast wireless broadband nationally?

Not in the short term at least, the broadcast nature of wireless stands against high speeds (basically, test your wireless speed with 1 laptop connected then test it with 10) for large numbers of users. And it would still require fairly large backhaul investment. There is an argument for it, though the nature of it means it would likely be run by mobile carriers (experience of radio tech and existing sites) who are famously rubbish at data.

 

[bigredshark]

How is it possible (no offence) that Estonia's internet connection absolutley wipes our connections to the floor and back.... and for such a cheap price.

Really is rip of Britain, its a joke.

Another one?

Go read the thread, it's been explained already why multiple other countries have better broadband than the UK. I'm afraid simple economics is to blame rather than some conspiracy...

 

[KIA]

Rapidswitch, they've been pretty decent - always had full 10.9MByte/s up/down available any time I've tested on my 100Mbit boxes, aside from internal transfers tho never got more than 400Mbit/s (with multiple users connected).

I wouldn't touch RS with a bargepole after their history.

Check out Poundhost. 1Gb/s 24/7 no problem.

 

[Garido]

I'll just add a further footnote since the discussion is getting a bit more international. We've had 100mb for home/retail use (not educational institution) for some time but I don't see the massive benefits.

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The ISP used here is a very common ISP and offers these speeds at an affordable price. I can't say how popular they are. My cousin is with them and is on that 100mb plan. He pays $70 AUD (43 GBP) monthly which includes some sort of package deal (landline phone). I'm not sure how that value compares to your cases. In my case I use an ISP which offers conventional ADSL2+ for $40 AUD (24 GBP) monthly but I only connect between 12-15 down and 1 up. I agree with the comment that the grass is always greener.

Let me explain. To download files it's still dependant on the host serving you the file as well as the load. In many cases since we are an island far away, many ISPs host the files locally so they are normally quite speedy anyway plus quota free. Anything above 6mb should be fine to stream HD (if i'm wrong please correct me). When it comes to games we have local servers, just like you, from which we connect to at a reasonable ping. Other than to brag, I can't really see the difference, except for the money coming out of the wallet.

 

[jorzeh]

pow!

 

[VaderDSL]

Finally managed to sort the internal cabling, was down to around 5meg before.

 

[Rroff]

I wouldn't touch RS with a bargepole after their history.

Check out Poundhost. 1Gb/s 24/7 no problem.

Never had any problems with them - been a continuous customer since 2005ish - customer service has been top notch, network excellent and setup very prompt.

 

[bigredshark]

I wouldn't touch RS with a bargepole after their history.

Check out Poundhost. 1Gb/s 24/7 no problem.

RS do have a reputation for general terribleness. In fact, we had an off network monitoring probe with them for a while, a quick scan of the logs shows they had outages on

08/06/2010
21/07/2010
18/10/2010
28/10/2010

before we told them where to go. Their network is architecturally terrible, resiliency is either non existent (one LINX connection only) or defective (Cisco VSS isn't resiliency by anybody else's standards).

There support is also mildly comical when reporting massive packet loss

RS - Can you raise a ticket on our portal?
US - Well I would, but it's timing out due to the massive packet loss...
RS - Oh, could you send an email then?
US - /kills self

muppets

 

[Locky]

If BT was to use different uncapped line profile for the FTTC Via VDSL2 we would see speeds of 100mbs up and down.

In fact we could see speeds of 250mbs over a 0.5km line if the profile allowed it.

 

[KIA]

The ISP used here is a very common ISP and offers these speeds at an affordable price. I can't say how popular they are. My cousin is with them and is on that 100mb plan. He pays $70 AUD (43 GBP) monthly which includes some sort of package deal (landline phone). I'm not sure how that value compares to your cases. In my case I use an ISP which offers conventional ADSL2+ for $40 AUD (24 GBP) monthly but I only connect between 12-15 down and 1 up. I agree with the comment that the grass is always greener.

What is the download allowance and why is the upstream capped at 0.5Mb/s?

Never had any problems with them - been a continuous customer since 2005ish - customer service has been top notch, network excellent and setup very prompt.

You're paying for a gigabit port but you're unable to burst to 1Gb/s RS to Internet? Something is wrong.

 

[Garido]

What is the download allowance and why is the upstream capped at 0.5Mb/s?

I should state it's not my provider, thankfully I get better upstream but perhaps their upstream is capped to prevent file sharing *shrugs*

The download allowance varies dependant on plan. There are packages out there but they can vary from say 1TB to 120GB per month. After you reach your quota your speeds are then throttled.

My provider offers better value though but at a reduced speed. Once I'm throttled I can still game, I just can't browse youtube.

 

[zetec452]

If it's any consolation Canada isn't great for internet speeds either. A standard internet line is around 6mb. There are come cable companies offering 50mbit @ $99 per month capped at 175GB.

I pay $66 per month for an unlimited 5mb line and voip phone. Not too bad.

 

[blitzyuk]

 

[nolimit]

We got 100mbit BT business connection at the office yesterday
Speedtest shows 60-80mb/s down and 30-50mb/s up.


The cost is £5000 to install and annual charge is roughly £15,000.

 

[Garido]

We got 100mbit BT business connection at the office yesterday
Speedtest shows 60-80mb/s down and 30-50mb/s up.


The cost is £5000 to install and annual charge is roughly £15,000.

I'm curious to know whether the service/support offered to business customers is worthy of the extra charge. Quite often I see 2 services offered by ISPs (locally, AU) and they seem nearly similar except for pricing.

Support lines close and even despite having a business connection, they will NOT guarantee uptime.

 

[KIA]

The download allowance varies dependant on plan. There are packages out there but they can vary from say 1TB to 120GB per month. After you reach your quota your speeds are then throttled.

1TB of bandwidth for 93 GBP isn't bad although it depends what the international speeds are like.

I'm curious to know whether the service/support offered to business customers is worthy of the extra charge. Quite often I see 2 services offered by ISPs (locally, AU) and they seem nearly similar except for pricing.

I think it's a leased line, not a residential connection.

 

[Garido]

1TB of bandwidth for 93 GBP isn't bad although it depends what the international speeds are like.

Actually, it's 80 GBP a month for 1TB with some landline (home phone) bundle. I wouldn't sign up on such a plan as I never use more than 30GB per month and even then that's on a heavy month.

But hey each to their own.

 

[Jayster]

I'll just add a further footnote since the discussion is getting a bit more international. We've had 100mb for home/retail use (not educational institution) for some time but I don't see the massive benefits.

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The ISP used here is a very common ISP and offers these speeds at an affordable price. I can't say how popular they are. My cousin is with them and is on that 100mb plan. He pays $70 AUD (43 GBP) monthly which includes some sort of package deal (landline phone). I'm not sure how that value compares to your cases. In my case I use an ISP which offers conventional ADSL2+ for $40 AUD (24 GBP) monthly but I only connect between 12-15 down and 1 up. I agree with the comment that the grass is always greener.

Let me explain. To download files it's still dependant on the host serving you the file as well as the load. In many cases since we are an island far away, many ISPs host the files locally so they are normally quite speedy anyway plus quota free. Anything above 6mb should be fine to stream HD (if i'm wrong please correct me). When it comes to games we have local servers, just like you, from which we connect to at a reasonable ping. Other than to brag, I can't really see the difference, except for the money coming out of the wallet.

Im not saying you are lying or anything but im pretty sure 0.5Mb/s up cannot support 250Mb/s down, I would be supprised if it could even support that lowest package. There is a reason uploads increase with downloads. Do you know what technology that service is using?

 

[Rroff]

Running it through an online calculator it reckons 0.5Mbit upstream maxes out at around 40MBit/s downstream, not sure if theres other tranmission protocols, etc. that can affect that like nagle that its not taking into account.

 

[Jayster]

Ok, Thanks.