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10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

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I just downloaded Watchdogs Legion for a very quick spin waked it on ultra no RT at 1440p and saw it was over the 8GB VRAM budget on my 1080.

So for sure the 3070 will suffer with vram.

Still.. You can't look at the vram usage with for example MSI Afterburner. The game is allocating vram. That is why all you're memory is used. And not to mention that the 3xxx series is also having much faster vram's. And you will definitely not hit 10gb of vram in any game in 1440p if its not unoptimized as hell.
 
If you have not already figured out most games are designed now to not use more vram than you have. See BF V and cod BOCW as examples that have options in the menu.

What you will find now as games increase in quality you will get increased pop in and asset/texture streaming. See cyberpunk 2077.

You will be unlikely to see hitching or frame drops unless the streaming tech used to swap out and limit vram is broken. Also see cyberpunk 2077.
 
If you have not already figured out most games are designed now to not use more vram than you have. See BF V and cod BOCW as examples that have options in the menu.

What you will find now as games increase in quality you will get increased pop in and asset/texture streaming. See cyberpunk 2077.

You will be unlikely to see hitching or frame drops unless the streaming tech used to swap out and limit vram is broken. Also see cyberpunk 2077.


Watch dogs legion needs this streaming tech - when it runs out of vram it holds up the frame while data loads in and out, so you can go from 70fps to 10fps
 
Click the link and within 10 seconds or so it should be obvious. Unless you have not been following the thread or have a short memory ;)

They didn't test image quality

Some new games downgrade image quality dynamically based on vram buffer so 6800xt can have better image quality than rtx3080 - until they add image quality to reviews it's not like for like

though I suppose things like texture quality and texture pop in don't have too much affect on performance so if you just care about how many frames you get then so be it
 
if its enough it depends on your settings its that simple. On Ultra in 4k? When games developers start to only developing for next gen consoles and abandon the old ones finally, so they can set the bar higher i would assume the 10gb will be to low. I mean history shows this. Some amd cards with 8gb still going strong in 1080p yet are 5 years old. While nvidia cards suffer from the low vram like the 970. But if you upgrade every 2 years to the new flagship it shouldn't matter. it only matters for people who will keep the card for 4-7 years event hen you can always reduce settings. its not true that resolution eats a lot of vram that's a myth. Other graphic settings do much much more. shadows,ssao, hbao and so on depends on the game-
 
Guys. He said he can’t see the 10gb vram buffer being an issue anytime soon. That is it. I even linked to the bloody exact bit he said it. Yet here we are talking about image quality. Lol.
 
I have to turn down settings with my 3080 NOW, and it has nothing to do with vram.

My driving sims are just too demanding in VR for the GPU itself.

I have experienced the lowered-settings apocalypse and I'm okay.
 
I have to turn down settings with my 3080 NOW, and it has nothing to do with vram.

My driving sims are just too demanding in VR for the GPU itself.

I have experienced the lowered-settings apocalypse and I'm okay.

What 3080 do you have it may be thermal throttling, which the card then lowers it's watts reducing power.
 
if its enough it depends on your settings its that simple. On Ultra in 4k? When games developers start to only developing for next gen consoles and abandon the old ones finally, so they can set the bar higher i would assume the 10gb will be to low.

You didn't read this thread? The next gen consoles only have a total of 16GB of RAM. The XBox has a split with 6GB slower and 10GB faster RAM. Now if you take away the OS, housekeeping such as recoding, game code and data you will be left with ~10GB of RAM for graphics.

I have to turn down settings with my 3080 NOW, and it has nothing to do with vram.

My driving sims are just too demanding in VR for the GPU itself.

I have experienced the lowered-settings apocalypse and I'm okay.

Yep, I don't see Ampere or RDNA2 having much life expectancy due to the GPU already being pushed beyond it's capabilities.


Made me chuckle. I'm sure he's not happy about having to say that, though he's still trying to down play RT.
 
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What 3080 do you have it may be thermal throttling, which the card then lowers it's watts reducing power.
I have the FE. It runs at ~60c with a custom fan curve and fast clocks.

It performs well:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/56973879?

>4k 90fps (HP Reverb) just requires a LOT of GPU horespower and the 3080 doesn't have enough to max out settings in my sims. Nothing does right now.

I have owned a lot of graphics cards over the years and all of them have ran out of horsepower before vram.

The 3080 is just the most recent one.
 
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I have the FE. It runs at ~60c with a custom fan curve and fast clocks.

It performs well:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/56973879?

>4k 90fps (HP Reverb) just requires a LOT of GPU horespower and the 3080 doesn't have enough to max out settings. Nothing does right now.
It is because you need more vram mate. More vram = better image quality apparently :p

Get two 3090's and SLI them for 48GB's of ultimate image quality! :D
 
I have the FE. It runs at ~60c with a custom fan curve and fast clocks.

It performs well:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/56973879?

>4k 90fps (HP Reverb) just requires a LOT of GPU horespower and the 3080 doesn't have enough to max out settings. Nothing does right now.

I have owned a lot of graphics cards over the years and all of them have ran out of horsepower before vram.

The 3080 is just the most recent one.

That temp is the core temp, if you download hwinfo the new update shows memory junction temp. The memory starts throttling at between 108c-110c.

I've got the gigabyte master 3080. Mine throttles badly. Also on GPUz if you download that, go to sensors then scroll down to PerfCap, if it goes pink and states THM then it's thermal throttling.

As I've got it badly even gaming not just mining I've found some FE versions 3080s and 3090s do also thermal throttle.

Just a thought :)
 
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That temp is the core temp, if you download hwinfo the new update shows memory junction temp. The memory starts throttling at between 108c-110c.

I've got the gigabyte master 3080. Mine throttles badly. Also on GPUz if you download that, go to sensors then scroll down to PerfCap, if it goes purple and states THM then it's thermal throttling.

As I've got it badly even gaming not just mining I've found some FE versions 3080s and 3090s do also thermal throttle.

Just a thought :)

My junction temp stays in the 80's while gaming and the clocks stay well over 2Ghz. The 3080 just lacks the horespower for the task. (I updated HWinfo when the news popped up on reddit)

I'm not surprised. My 1080Ti could *barely* run the headset with the sims set to potato. I didn't expect a 60% boost in performance to take me from potato to maxed-out anyway.

The bottom line is that vram is not holding me back in my use case. -A lack of GPU horespower is.
 
My junction temp stays in the 80's while gaming and the clocks stay well over 2Ghz. The 3080 just lacks the horespower for the task. (I updated HWinfo when the news popped up on reddit)

I'm not surprised. My 1080Ti could *barely* run the headset with the sims set to potato. I didn't expect a 60% boost in performance to take me from potato to maxed-out anyway.

The bottom line is that vram is not holding me back in my use case. -A lack of GPU horespower is.

Understood :)

It's still a great card. Just thought that may of been the problem, I've got thermal pads coming this week and I intend to fix my 3080.

I was playing star Trek online with my friend for about 6 hours the other day. When we finished, I then checked my thermals and has seen my card was thermal throttling whilst playing games. So bad for a card that cost me £950, gigabyte haven't done good this time. I won't be going back to them.

I would RMA. But I doubt I'll get the card back or a replacement. Just wish the UK had the right to repair.
 
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