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10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

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We're still waiting on someone to post hard evidence to show that a 3080 is struggling @4k because of its 10GB vram (outside of running at silly high vr resolutions or/and using 50+ mods)

In short, 10GB GDDRx is still coping perfectly ok right now, even at 4k, in fact, it is arguably a better card at 4k than other cards with more vram but I digress.....

My 3080 can't max Project Cars 2 in VR on my Reverb and it has nothing to do with vram. The GPU isn't strong enough. I would need another ~40% of raw GPU power to max it out.

I'm under 6gb of vram in this title too.
 
Maybe. At what frame rate?
at a stable decent framerate between 1200-1600p. 60 fps is and will be standart within this console generation

3080 can do native 4k all it wants, it will push lower textures due to limited vram amount

ps5 can easily allocate a full 12-13 gb vram. it does not need to store stuff for CPU ram anymore, since it has superior cache scrubbers and superior ssd i/o subsystems. ps5 is an advanced system no pc builder can yet to mimick

xbox sx has superior sampler feedback streaming, which nvidia lacks. SFS can easily help xbox sx to push more effective vram than it can allocate manually. rtx 3000 only has sampler feedback, not sampler feedback streaming, this is an important distinction. and then again, it is only at a 0.9 feature level, which is hugely decrepated compared to 1.0 feature level. so yeah, gimped again. 0.9 sampler feedback and absolutely not sampler feedback streaming = death sentence for these line of GPUs. SFS needs specialized hardware that is present on xbox consoles. i bet sony has their own similar tech. these are not misinformation, these are brutal truths/facts. im not some lifeless dude that posted 26k posts over a span of 10 years in an online forum.

ps5 players have already finished deathllop and enjoying a seamless experience . keep bickering about stuff and try to find tweaks and stuff to fix the broken pc port. that's what you get for premium pc experience
 
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at a stable decent framerate between 1200-1600p. 60 fps is and will be standart within this console generation

3080 can do native 4k all it wants, it will push lower textures due to limited vram amount

ps5 can easily allocate a full 12-13 gb vram. it does not need to store stuff for CPU ram anymore, since it has superior cache scrubbers and superior ssd i/o subsystems. ps5 is an advanced system no pc builder can yet to mimick

xbox sx has superior sampler feedback streaming, which nvidia lacks. SFS can easily help xbox sx to push more effective vram than it can allocate manually. rtx 3000 only has sampler feedback, not sampler feedback streaming, this is an important distinction. and then again, it is only at a 0.9 feature level, which is hugely decrepated compared to 1.0 feature level. so yeah, gimped again. 0.9 sampler feedback and absolutely not sampler feedback streaming = death sentence for these line of GPUs. SFS needs specialized hardware that is present on xbox consoles. i bet sony has their own similar tech.

these are not misinformation, these are brutal truths/facts. im not some lifeless dude that posted 26k posts over a span of 10 years in an online forum.

All current gpus can do up scaling though, can't they? So you have the option of native when it's available, and up scaling when it's necessary.

The PS5 ssd i/O is very impressive as far as I understand it, but don't the gpus also have direct storage either coming or available now?

Can't comment on the sampler feedback steaming as I don't know anything about it, but then I'm not some lifeless dude who has posted nearly 500 times in 6 months in a tech forum...;)
 
All current gpus can do up scaling though, can't they? So you have the option of native when it's available, and up scaling when it's necessary.

The PS5 ssd i/O is very impressive as far as I understand it, but don't the gpus also have direct storage either coming or available now?

Can't comment on the sampler feedback steaming as I don't know anything about it, but then I'm not some lifeless dude who has posted nearly 500 times in 6 months in a tech forum...;)

yeah your math checks out. my average is 2.23 posts. good luck comparing 2 posts every day to 7 posts every day (which is the actual lifeless person that nexus18 is)

and for the reference, most of my posts were in just 3-4 months (i was hyped for ampere launch). i've left this forum since the last 2-3 months or so. because of people like you and the others. this forum is full of insufferable lifeless people like you and your friend
 
Lel.....

So much nonsense with literally zero evidence to back up said claims as per usual, hilarious :D

Come back to this thread with evidence my boy then people will take you seriously.

Who is this guy?

Just some kid who is mad because he can't max cyberpunk out with his 3070 :cry:
 
yeah your math checks out. my average is 2.23 posts. good luck comparing 2 posts every day to 7 posts every day (which is the actual lifeless person that nexus18 is)

and for the reference, most of my posts were in just 3-4 months (i was hyped for ampere launch). i've left this forum since the last 2-3 months or so. because of people like you and the others. this forum is full of insufferable lifeless people like you and your friend
Shut the door on your way back out. No need to rush back buddy. You won't be missed.
 
yeah your math checks out. my average is 2.23 posts. good luck comparing 2 posts every day to 7 posts every day (which is the actual lifeless person that nexus18 is)

ALL about perspective. Is 3 posts a day enough to moan about RAM restrictions? I have no idea why Nexus18 has upset you. I have no idea how post count relates to RAM usage either to be fair.

My point is that the RAM on a 3080 appears fine and people who are concerned about it PROBABLY have no reason to be for a number of years, but history will bear it out. If it does prove insufficient, settings can be adjusted, which isn't possible on a console. Cyberpunk is an example of a console trying to go beyond its means (although that admittedly was.... Sub-optimal at launch) Imagine how high prices may have got if there was MORE RAM on there?
 
Sometimes I dont know why I bother to visit the threads, hoping for some concrete discussion I guess. :(

That's fair, I got distracted. As mentioned I THINK 10GB will be fine for a few years yet, especially given the delay in game development caused by Covid. Nothing I've seen has shown to be a total disaster yet, and nor should it after a year.
 
I think old princess got a bit of stick but since about page 6 or whenever that debunking occurred for me it has been a case of lets wait and see because once a game exposes it then I'm sure we will all know about it! Until then though, with a year passing pretty much now, I can say nvidia got away with it so I can assume their engineers had worked it out spot on.

Unless of course your a long termer, where a purchase needs to last 3+ years then the jury is still out..
 
Shut the door on your way back out. No need to rush back buddy. You won't be missed.
nah i will visit every once in a while. it is fun to get you people worked up ;) easy solution would be to ignore my messages but you people can't, so we're in this predicament. a simple sentence such as "nice to see it gettting destroyed hehe" is easy to push some of the people here to extremes. take it up to the forum's moderation team if you will, they're ones who are letting this happen. maybe if they ban/kick me or something, i may not visit again. but as of now, nothing can't stop me from saying these

no one has to answer, yet they do. they feel compelled to respond. what can I do :) no one has to defend 3080 or 3070, yet they feel compelled to do so. take it up to them.

when they do respond, they also mix personal insults, which i respond back as a result. it is only natural :=)

no answers to me = no discussion, easy
 
Sometimes I dont know why I bother to visit the threads, hoping for some concrete discussion I guess. :(

There is plenty of good discussion in here, the problem is when people start spouting nonsense/incorrect statements with no evidence whatsoever to back up their claims and then they get offended because they have had their argument completely and utterly destroyed. I mean what do they expect when they are just plucking random nonsense out of their asses :o
 
If we're looking long term as 3+ years, that would suggest... 2 GPU cycles? So comparing a 1070 to a 3070.

They both have 8gb of RAM. RAM by itself was not the limiting factor, it was grunt. Was the 1070 therefore given too much?
 
nah i will visit every once in a while. it is fun to get you people worked up ;) easy solution would be to ignore my messages but you people can't, so we're in this predicament. a simple sentence such as "nice to see it gettting destroyed hehe" is easy to push some of the people here to extremes. take it up to the forum's moderation team if you will, they're ones who are letting this happen. maybe if they ban/kick me or something, i may not visit again. but as of now, nothing can't stop me from saying these

no one has to answer, yet they do. they feel compelled to respond. what can I do :) no one has to defend 3080 or 3070, yet they feel compelled to do so. take it up to them.

no answers to me = no discussion, easy

Still running my 3080 here. Wasn't even tempted to double my money with CEX offering ~£1,500 for it. I'm able to enjoy full RT and DLSS without issue, which is the reason I purchased the card. At the same time I see others trying to push console garbage, yourself included and I have to ask, why? Why do you settle for less?
 
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