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10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

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PieEater said:
Quote please, as far as I know they (Justin Walker) have implied the amount of memory was determined more on RRP than performance and that more would have been better, maybe you are referring to a different source?
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Why only 10 GB of memory for RTX 3080? How was that determined to be a sufficient number, when it is stagnant from the previous generation?

[Justin Walker] We’re constantly analyzing memory requirements of the latest games and regularly review with game developers to understand their memory needs for current and upcoming games. The goal of 3080 is to give you great performance at up to 4k resolution with all the settings maxed out at the best possible price.

In order to do this, you need a very powerful GPU with high speed memory and enough memory to meet the needs of the games. A few examples - if you look at Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, Metro Exodus, Wolfenstein Youngblood, Gears of War 5, Borderlands 3 and Red Dead Redemption 2 running on a 3080 at 4k with Max settings (including any applicable high res texture packs) and RTX On, when the game supports it, you get in the range of 60-100fps and use anywhere from 4GB to 6GB of memory.


If those games are using 4-6gb so say 5gb on average.

Then I think double that 10gb is more than enough.

If you don't then I think you are being completely unrealistic.

I used 6 different gpus with pubg ranging from the 1050 to the 1080.

I don't think vram was ever an issue. It's likely that if 10gb does become an issue then you will need more power than a 3080 anyway.

So I'm willing to listen to the experts here.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
They backed it up with figures for vram usage at 4k on popular new games

Red dead redemption 2 is a great example. If that only uses 5gb then I'd like to see what is going to be using 10gb
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So old games that pre date next gen consoles.

Which is a false equilevant.
And can someone tell me who these experts are? Because nvidia has 0 say in how a console next gen console game is developed and ported over too pc.

Experts at what???
 
Psycho Sonny said:
They backed it up with figures for vram usage at 4k on popular new games

Red dead redemption 2 is a great example. If that only uses 5gb then I'd like to see what is going to be using 10gb
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Shadow of the Tomb Raider - Sept 2018
Assassin’s Creed Odyssey - Oct 2018
Metro Exodus - Feb 2019
Wolfenstein Youngblood - July 2019
Gears of War 5 - Sept 2019
Borderlands 3 - Sept 2019
Red Dead Redemption 2 - Oct 2018

How many of these are next-gen games debuting on XSX/PS5?
 
FoxEye said:
Shadow of the Tomb Raider - Sept 2018
Assassin’s Creed Odyssey - Oct 2018
Metro Exodus - Feb 2019
Wolfenstein Youngblood - July 2019
Gears of War 5 - Sept 2019
Borderlands 3 - Sept 2019
Red Dead Redemption 2 - Oct 2018

How many of these are next-gen games debuting on XSX/PS5?
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Exactly.

What Nvidia is saying is that they tailored the vram usage based on old games. Lol
 
EastCoastHandle said:
Exactly.

What Nvidia is saying is that they tailored the vram usage based on old games. Lol
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As apposed to tailoring it for games that don't even exist yet?

They said they had discussed this with developers. That's about all you can do if you want something beyond "more is better".

I personally paid for vram on the 1080Ti that I never needed over the years I owned it. I can't even use 8gb of vram on that card in my favorite last-gen racing sim without it chugging down to unplayable frame rates.
 
opethdisciple said:
He's right.

It does say the GPU will be 2080ti levels in here.
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2080 level is more realistic.
If they're getting 2080ti/3070 performance out of a cheap apu and drawing way less power then AMD should have no problem besting the 3080/3090 with a discrete GPU.

I will hedge my bets on the Xbox being 3060/2080 level, ps5 slightly slower.
 
Twinz said:
As apposed to tailoring it for games that don't even exist yet?

They said they had discussed this with developers. That's about all you can do if you want something beyond "more is better".

I personally paid for vram on the 1080Ti that I never needed over the years I owned it. I can't even use 8gb of vram on that card in my favorite last-gen racing sim without it chugging down to unplayable frame rates.
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So nvidia are now goldfish that dont recall the 1080ti and 2080ti. Got it...

And they were taken completely by surprised by the console Uarch. Which contradicts them being experts.
But if you want to replay assassins creed odyssey by all means buy a 3080.
:D
 
I wonder what proportion of the rising VRAM requirements over the years is directly tied to rising resolutions alone (and not just bigger game worlds, etc). Would be interesting to see how, say, a 2x jump in resolution affects VRAM requirements for example.

Saying this thinking about the claim of 8K for the 24GB 3090.
 
FoxEye said:
Shadow of the Tomb Raider - Sept 2018
Assassin’s Creed Odyssey - Oct 2018
Metro Exodus - Feb 2019
Wolfenstein Youngblood - July 2019
Gears of War 5 - Sept 2019
Borderlands 3 - Sept 2019
Red Dead Redemption 2 - Oct 2018

How many of these are next-gen games debuting on XSX/PS5?
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Okay tell me how much ram the previous gen used to the above and how much the increase was in usage? Was it double?
 
Psycho Sonny said:
What's funny is that those games 4-6gb.

Do you understand that?

If so then how come it has 10gb and not 6gb or Even 8gb of ram?

They doubled what those games used. It's hilarious you cannot understand that.
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A top teir flag ship next gen video card. And that's your only rebuttal? That old games used less vram then next gen console games.

With no proof that next gen ported games will use less.

Do you understand there is a new era of gaming? No of course not.

Do you understand that consoles are $499 while the 3080 is 649 and higher? Which completely depreciates the 3080.:D
 
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EastCoastHandle said:
A top teir flag ship next gen video card. And that's your only rebuttal? That old games used less vram then next gen console games.

With no proof that next gen ported games will use less.

Do you understand there is a new era of gaming? No of course not.

Do you understand that consoles are $499 while the 3080 is 649 and higher? Which completely depreciates the 3080.:D
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Go buy a console then. This will have more than enough power and vram. I bet its folk who don't even game or have 4k monitors crying in here
 
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