12GB vram enough for 4K? Discuss..

[Woodsta888]

Doesn't matter where the customers are, these are the facts right there. Run a pole here or any enthusiast forums and you will find same results. These are just as random as it gets really so not sure why that matters and why the results don't matter to you ? Also you have a 24GB 4090 so surprised you find them results odd too.

Spoiler: Maybe?

The truth hurts ?

Wasn't on about the results themselves - just where people go for 'evidence' That was all.

Furthermore the question is loaded or poorly defined. More than once.

It states; min acceptable RAM for quality gaming (whatever that is) in a new GPU today. And the title also starts with 12GB 4070ti so we talking about choices in new cards, as in the latest gen from both NVidia & AMD, no?

Seeing as the new,today AMD GPU's available are only in 16 & 24GB versions and Nvidia released cards are 12, 16 & 24GB. The first and 2nd choice aren't even valid answers for the Q.

 

[tommybhoy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611469902275293184

Can't work that out, FC6 isn't an option to moan at and it's way too overcomplicated for the rest, can you help me out please?

 

[TNA]

So, did we come to a conclusion in the end? Is 12GB enough?

 

[Bill Turnip]

So, did we come to a conclusion in the end? Is 12GB enough?

Still got some popcorn to finish?

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

I remember when the discussion was "Is 4GB enough for 4K?"

I think the answer was no, until AMD released the FuryX with 4GB then the answer chnged a bit because apparently 4GB HBM memory is basically infinite VRAM. I guess that didn't apply to HBM2 though as they added more...

Surely the answer for 12GB as it has always been is dependant on what games you play and what settings you use?

 

[TNA]

Still got some popcorn to finish?

Lol. 5 star reply

Actually, make it 10 stars for you. 1 for each GB of vram your 3080 has

 

[Bill Turnip]

No problem, you're in the same boat as me as it seems 12gb isn't enough anymore

 

[TNA]

No problem, you're in the same boat as me as it seems 12gb isn't enough anymore

Well if FC6 was the benchmark for it then it is just about enough for now. But as soon as FC 7 is out that will surely change

 

[Raiden85]

For the Far Cry 7 texture pack it will probably recommend 13GB

 

[TNA]

For the Far Cry 7 texture pack it will probably recommend 13GB

Will be 16GB minimum, maybe even 20GB for the lol’s!

The funny part is the texture pack won’t look any better than a standard textures shipped in a game that works on a 8GB card. Actually, it might, but you will need to zoom in 400% to see the difference which LtMatt will hapilly demonstrate

 

[gpuerrilla]

No problem, you're in the same boat as me as it seems 12gb isn't enough anymore

There's always local system issue card in reserve to play Bill!

 

[LtMatt]

There's always local system issue card in reserve to play Bill!

Don't forget the 'it works fine on my system' card too Bill. That's always a favourite and can get you out of pretty much anything, even if that contradicts everyone else.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Don't forget the 'it works fine on my system' card too Bill. That's always a favourite and can get you out of pretty much anything, even if that contradicts everyone else.

How about the "acceptable sources" list.. I think the bullet template need preparing Matthew.

 

[TNA]

Don't forget the 'it works fine on my system' card too Bill. That's always a favourite and can get you out of pretty much anything, even if that contradicts everyone else.

I doubt he will get away with making it work if AMD make sure you need 20GB this time

 

[Nexus18]

Yup "local system issue" always the go to when a certain other side having issues eh...

I watched that video and honestly it looks like a possible local system issue.

Remember though "4GB is enough for 4k".....

I remember when the discussion was "Is 4GB enough for 4K?"

I think the answer was no, until AMD released the FuryX with 4GB then the answer chnged a bit because apparently 4GB HBM memory is basically infinite VRAM. I guess that didn't apply to HBM2 though as they added more...

Surely the answer for 12GB as it has always been is dependant on what games you play and what settings you use?

IIRC there was an article written about how the HBM 4GB was made for 4k gaming and why we didn't need as much vram due to HBM, that article also happened to get taken down last year but when called out, it got reuploaded

As for last bit:

Surely the answer for 12GB as it has always been is dependant on what games you play and what settings you use?

More like:

Surely the answer for 12GB as it has always been is dependant on the narrative?

i.e. pick the 1-2 sites showing issues and ignore every other site

I doubt he will get away with making it work if AMD make sure you need 20GB this time

I'll laugh my ass of if it plays without issue on my system and requires me to force rebar on, use no FSR (since dlss won't be allowed) and run the benchmark mode to get the same issues again Hopefully amd won't screw over their rdna 2 customers so soon though, they already have had to sacrifice visuals in more than a handful and probably even more than 2 handfuls of games over the past 2 years.

But hey at least a certain someone will have another game, which justifies the extra £750 spending Wouldn't blame him though:

Spoiler

 

[TNA]

Yup "local system issue" always the go to when a certain other side having issues eh...





Remember though "4GB is enough for 4k".....




IIRC there was an article written about how the HBM 4GB was made for 4k gaming and why we didn't need as much vram due to HBM, that article also happened to get taken down last year but when called out, it got reuploaded

As for last bit:



More like:



i.e. pick the 1-2 sites showing issues and ignore every other site





I'll laugh my ass of if it plays without issue on my system and requires me to force rebar on, use no FSR (since dlss won't be allowed) and run the benchmark mode to get the same issues again Hopefully amd won't screw over their rdna 2 customers so soon though, they already have had to sacrifice visuals in more than a handful and probably even more than 2 handfuls of games over the past 2 years.

But hey at least a certain someone will have another game, which justifies the extra £750 spending

 

[G J]

There's always local system issue card in reserve to play Bill!

Don't forget the 'it works fine on my system' card too Bill. That's always a favourite and can get you out of pretty much anything, even if that contradicts everyone else.

Amazing as the local system issue and it works fine on my system card gets played many times with AMD hardware and software over the years when a person wants help and one has to be subjected to blaming, gaslighting and trolling.

 

[brostradamus]

i found something interesting

GPU DECOMPRESSION AND RTX IO

Decompressing assets on the GPU is still being worked on by Microsoft and graphics card vendors. Nvidia calls their GPU-based decompression API “RTX IO”. This is not currently available and has no confirmed release date as of today. Once this feature is released and implemented into games, assets will be able to be copied from system memory to VRAM in a compressed state, where they will then be decompressed by the GPU. However, the compressed assets must still be loaded from storage into system memory via DirectStorage first. The CPU will still handle these IO requests. The only change is that the CPU will no longer have to handle decompressing the assets.

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.reddit.com

 

[tommybhoy]

The funny part is the texture pack won’t look any better than a standard textures shipped in a game that works on a 8GB card.

Run it on a bigger display then

 

[TNA]

Run it on a bigger display then

Happy with my display thank you very much. It is arguably one of the best monitors money can buy. Only way I change it is if they release a 4K QD-OLED.

You got people buying 4090's and gaming on potato IPS/VA monitors and missing out on awesome image quality