1366 X58 Xeon 5650

Uncle_Gravy · 16 Mar 2016 at 20:17

Mines sat happy just like this for a good few hours, played a load of games, done some video editing on it, Again, only playing with the core voltage, I've gone lower but i've had a few BSODS but so far its happy at this voltage.

Temp wise, Mid 20s idle and low 50s high 40s full load.

AiiR · 16 Mar 2016 at 22:31

Sad times, my X58M has just given up the ghost and died. My best guess is where the VRMs have no cooling, but oh well!

Now to decide on a new system...

........

Nevermind, was a loose cable!

Draeger · 16 Mar 2016 at 23:12

Ah, so false alarm then? Good stuff!! :cool:

reef · 16 Mar 2016 at 23:14

DragonQ said:
You're unlikely to get 4.4 GHz on a P6T Deluxe, unless your board can do 220 MHz base clock. Asus X58 boards employ throttling, which basically means you can either choose between having a fixed 20x maximum multiplier, or a varying 21-23x multiplier that you can't control. I tried the latter but I couldn't get it to be stable because it can spike to 4.6 GHz at any time.

The 22x base multiplier of an X5670 makes things rather easier.

This is only the case for the older Asus X58 boards. The P6X58D-E will hold the 22x turbo multiplier when all cores are loaded. That means you can hit 4400MHz on the X5650 with 200MHz BClk. See page 11 of this thread for my screenshot.

AiiR · 16 Mar 2016 at 23:50

Draeger said:
Ah, so false alarm then? Good stuff!!

Not quite, now its constant blue screens, maybe it wasn't a loose connection afterall!

DragonQ · 17 Mar 2016 at 10:36

reef said:
This is only the case for the older Asus X58 boards. The P6X58D-E will hold the 22x turbo multiplier when all cores are loaded. That means you can hit 4400MHz on the X5650 with 200MHz BClk. See page 11 of this thread for my screenshot.

Fair enough, but the guy said he had a P6T Deluxe so my original point applies to him.

Kurgen · 17 Mar 2016 at 20:28

GA-EX58-UD4P with Xeon 5650

does anyone here have a GA-EX58-UD4P with Xeon 5650 working overclocked?

I havnt a clue at overclocking, Ive got my i7 920 up to 3.5, but I did this by watching a step by step video on you tube, the same settings didn't appear to work for the Xeon, so I reverted back to i7 920.

DragonQ · 17 Mar 2016 at 21:37

Reset to defaults, then whack VCore and QPI to 1.3 V, then set BCLK to 200 MHz and multiplier to 20x to start with.

If your board allows it, try 21x after that. If that works, try 22x.

Kurgen · 17 Mar 2016 at 22:39

ok cheers, I will give this a try over easter. the xeon is currently in a supermicro server board, but I have a spare 4 core xeon I can replace it with. then will keep the 920 in storage.... hopefully windows 10 wont de-activate due to hardware change

Louiscar · 18 Mar 2016 at 11:31

Kurgen said:
ok cheers, I will give this a try over easter. the xeon is currently in a supermicro server board, but I have a spare 4 core xeon I can replace it with. then will keep the 920 in storage.... hopefully windows 10 wont de-activate due to hardware change

Give this method a try, I found it useful and a sensible way to ramp up to where you want to go.

http://www.techreaction.net/2010/09...site&utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email

spoon · 19 Mar 2016 at 16:12

What do you guys think of buying x5650 or x5660 for £60/£75 and clocking the hell out of either one instated of buying x5690 for £160?

Is there any point in getting x5690 or will performance be equal on x5650/x5660 once overclocked to the same frequency?

I have Gagabyte GA-EX58-UD5 (rev. 1.0) mobo..

cheers.

tribz · 19 Mar 2016 at 17:19

Overclock the X5650 and spend the extra cash on something else

JLarks · 19 Mar 2016 at 17:49

Where would be the best place to pick up an X58 motherboard? I assume 'that online auction site'?

Also how does an X5650 at 4GHz compare to an i7 4790k/5820k? Mainly from a gaming point of view

wam7 · 19 Mar 2016 at 18:22

JLarks said:
Where would be the best place to pick up an X58 motherboard? I assume 'that online auction site'?

Also how does an X5650 at 4GHz compare to an i7 4790k/5820k? Mainly from a gaming point of view

The best place is not that auction site but it might be the only place. You will be paying a high price for it there so if you don't have a X58 board already or can't get it for <£100 then you might want to get newer tech.

As to your second question, here is a quote from somebody who has had both.

Millwall.FC said:
I went from a x5660 at 4.2 to a 5820k at 4.5ghz with the same graphics card and seem to be getting the same FPS in the games I play so I also find this "destroy" comment rather comical after having real world experience.

tribz · 19 Mar 2016 at 19:16

JLarks said:
Where would be the best place to pick up an X58 motherboard? I assume 'that online auction site'?

Also how does an X5650 at 4GHz compare to an i7 4790k/5820k? Mainly from a gaming point of view

Heres my synthetic tests with a 4770k comparison at 4.4GHz

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=26809830&postcount=140

AiiR · 19 Mar 2016 at 19:42

JLarks said:
Where would be the best place to pick up an X58 motherboard? I assume 'that online auction site'?

Also how does an X5650 at 4GHz compare to an i7 4790k/5820k? Mainly from a gaming point of view

Yeah the auction site, but you'll be paying through the nose for 2nd hand hardware which is never a great idea. If you can manage to pick one up for around £80 then it's not too bad. Mine was around £80 3 years ago, so it's lost no value at all (If anything I could potentially sell for a small profit as its matx, super rare). :confused:

I believe the Xeon at 4GHz+ matches the 5820k at stock, there's plenty of benchmarks at the beginning of the thread or in the links above.

JLarks · 19 Mar 2016 at 19:54

No wonder this thread has gotten so much attention, seems that this CPU with a good motherboard can net you amazing performance for sub £200!

I guess this kind of set up would require more of a technical know-how of CPU overclocking etc? Calling myself a noob at overclocking would probably be an over-exaggeration!

bigboss · 19 Mar 2016 at 19:57

Sh4rkie said:
Agreed!

My i7 930 @ 4Ghz ran hotter and more voltage hungry than my X5650.

CPU @ 4.2 (210BLCK) 1.368v (CPUZ), 20gb, AMD Fury (unlocked + oc/d), 2 x SSD, 2 x HDD, numerous USB powered devices:

X5650 idle in Windows + steam background download - 170 - 180w
OCCT full load - 260 - 270w
Dirt Rally benchmark @ 4k (100% gpu) + a few RDP sessions - 430w

What watt power supply do you guys recommend for an overclocked x58 xeon and a overclocked 980ti/furyx combo? Found this post after some googling and was wondering what the total cpu+gpu max load power consumption is. Not really sure if my 650w is good enough.

spoon · 19 Mar 2016 at 20:08

tribz said:
Overclock the X5650 and spend the extra cash on something else

Agreed, thinking about it now it sort of doesn't make sense to splash almost £100 extra if I can get the same performance by clocking the x56x0 chip

tribz said:
Heres my synthetic tests with a 4770k comparison at 4.4GHz

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=26809830&postcount=140

Nice, just picked up x5670 for £75 posted (x5650 = £60, x5660 = £70) so kinda getting best of both worlds

When you said, in the quoted post, the cost of x5670 wasn't justifiable over x5650 - this was few years back right?

Hopefully my x5670 will clock to 4.5GHz

tribz · 19 Mar 2016 at 20:23

spoon said:
When you said, in the quoted post, the cost of x5670 wasn't justifiable over x5650 - this was few years back right?

Hopefully my x5670 will clock to 4.5GHz

Yes, at the time the 5670 was twice the price of the 5650. I liked the 5670 as I could use the 22x multiplier X 200 bclk to get 4.4GHz easy enough.