1366 X58 Xeon 5650

Sh4rkie · 19 Mar 2016 at 20:25

bigboss said:
What watt power supply do you guys recommend for an overclocked x58 xeon and a overclocked 980ti/furyx combo? Found this post after some googling and was wondering what the total cpu+gpu max load power consumption is. Not really sure if my 650w is good enough.

If it's a good quality 650w you should be fine, for point of reference the above figures still stand and my PSU is a Corsair 650w

spoon · 19 Mar 2016 at 20:40

Sightly unrelated question - have you guys noticed any performance drop from running your GPU's in PCIe 2.0 x16 slots? I've seen some of you run Fury and 980Ti cards but x58 motherboards are only capable of PCIe 2.0 speeds/slots, or is the difference totally negligible?

bigboss · 19 Mar 2016 at 20:59

Sh4rkie said:
If it's a good quality 650w you should be fine, for point of reference the above figures still stand and my PSU is a Corsair 650w

Thanks Sh4rkie. So your max gpu+cpu power consumption is 430w? I'm not really sure how the Dirt Rally benchmark works. Doesn't OCCT full load only stress the gpu unless you use cpu linpack. It's really hard to find proper numbers anywhere.

Sh4rkie · 19 Mar 2016 at 21:39

bigboss said:
Thanks Sh4rkie. So your max gpu+cpu power consumption is 430w? I'm not really sure how the Dirt Rally benchmark works. Doesn't OCCT full load only stress the gpu unless you use cpu linpack. It's really hard to find proper numbers anywhere.

I did the benchmarks in isolation as it's highly unlikely to tax the cpu and gpu simultaneously at 100% for a sustained period.

So my worst case while gaming / gpu rendering with my gpu at full load was 430w at the wall. That's overclocked on both cpu and gpu plus all the other factors (lots of fans, 2 ssd, 2 hdd + usb devices).

Sh4rkie · 19 Mar 2016 at 21:41

spoon said:
Sightly unrelated question - have you guys noticed any performance drop from running your GPU's in PCIe 2.0 x16 slots? I've seen some of you run Fury and 980Ti cards but x58 motherboards are only capable of PCIe 2.0 speeds/slots, or is the difference totally negligible?

Negligible:

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/pci_express_scaling_game_performance_analysis_review,5.html

Uncle_Gravy · 19 Mar 2016 at 22:22

I was lucky when I found my P6T Deluxe for £60, I tried everywhere that wasn't the bay, I randomly thought maybe a place in the UK that deals with refurbished equipment? So, Googled it and found a company that had one x58 board that was a "new open box" and I genuinely believe its in new condition as the board is immaculate.

Shot them an email and they were like £60 "YES BUY BUY BUY PLEASE".

That was my experience anyway

Good luck

bigboss · 19 Mar 2016 at 22:32

Sh4rkie said:
I did the benchmarks in isolation as it's highly unlikely to tax the cpu and gpu simultaneously at 100% for a sustained period.

So my worst case while gaming / gpu rendering with my gpu at full load was 430w at the wall. That's overclocked on both cpu and gpu plus all the other factors (lots of fans, 2 ssd, 2 hdd + usb devices).

Interesting. Power consumption doesn't seem to be as simple as adding the CPU+GPU load together. I assumed from your post that your maximum load would be 270w+430w = 700w. Which means I would need a better psu, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Did you use a Kill-A-Watt to measure your power consumption?

This guy I found on youtube has a x5650 @ 4ghz and a GTX 970 OC 1550mhz. Here in the video https://youtu.be/JopY0kcKjq4?t=385 he claims that his build pulled over 700w in Crisis 3/3D Fire Strike. That's when I got scared and decided to find more info around the web.

Uncle_Gravy · 19 Mar 2016 at 22:39

I run a 4GHz 5660, a 6850 which only uses slighty less power than the 970, a SSD and HDD, running on a 500w Corsair 80+ Bronze PSU, and seen no problems.

And i use my xeon system for video editing and when rendering it uses 100% cpu usage and hovers around 30-50% GPU usage.

bigboss · 20 Mar 2016 at 00:09

Uncle_Gravy said:
I run a 4GHz 5660, a 6850 which only uses slighty less power than the 970, a SSD and HDD, running on a 500w Corsair 80+ Bronze PSU, and seen no problems.

And i use my xeon system for video editing and when rendering it uses 100% cpu usage and hovers around 30-50% GPU usage.

Nice, I also do a lot of rendering which is why I want to find the max power consumption. Pretty awesome that you're able to run it with a 500w psu. Is the 6850 also overclocked?

Uncle_Gravy · 20 Mar 2016 at 00:24

bigboss said:
Nice, I also do a lot of rendering which is why I want to find the max power consumption. Pretty awesome that you're able to run it with a 500w psu. Is the 6850 also overclocked?

Nah, leave it at its stock clock of 790MHZ, not much point overclocking it, if I wanted more performance from my GPU i'd pick up a 6950/70 for Sony vegas.

at the minute i'm happy with the setup, the cpu and gpu working together, i'm able to rend a 7min 1080p 60fps 50mbps vid in ~5mins, Really impressed with it.

Sh4rkie · 20 Mar 2016 at 11:20

bigboss said:
Interesting. Power consumption doesn't seem to be as simple as adding the CPU+GPU load together. I assumed from your post that your maximum load would be 270w+430w = 700w. Which means I would need a better psu, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Did you use a Kill-A-Watt to measure your power consumption?

This guy I found on youtube has a x5650 @ 4ghz and a GTX 970 OC 1550mhz. Here in the video https://youtu.be/JopY0kcKjq4?t=385 he claims that his build pulled over 700w in Crisis 3/3D Fire Strike. That's when I got scared and decided to find more info around the web.

Yeah you can't add the two figures together because they were taken at the wall. So the 270w is the full system load with the cpu being stressed 100%. If the application you're using is cpu bound then even a 400w psu would cover it that load. Most server psu's are not 1000w monsters because they don't need to be even with a huge raid array, dual cpus, 64gb ram etc. You'll find the wattage surprisingly small.

I use Cyberlink PD 14 for video editing and that uses gpu processing so even at full whack a 600 / 650w psu is more than fine.

And as for the 700w guy... Not watched the video but unless he had a billion fans / hdds and some very exotic cooling i can't see or understand how a single gpu card plus a processor can get anywhere near that.

My rig is about 6+ years old now and ran i920/930's in it plus 480GTX and 7970 before the Fury. Even the power heavy 480gtx didn't stretch my HX620 psu at the time in heavy gaming.

And to put it into context : https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review,10.html

Draeger · 20 Mar 2016 at 16:27

bigboss said:
What watt power supply do you guys recommend for an overclocked x58 xeon and a overclocked 980ti/furyx combo? Found this post after some googling and was wondering what the total cpu+gpu max load power consumption is. Not really sure if my 650w is good enough.

Posted my system info a few pages back, I'm running a Coolermaster Realpower 520W PSU with:-

Xeon 5650 @4.2Ghz
Asus P6X58D-E
16Gb Corsair Vengeance
Asus GTX760 Direct CU2 OC GPU
2 x 120Gb OCZ Agility SSD's as boot drives with W8.1 and W10 respectively
3 x HDD's as archive/backup drives.

No power issues at all. :cool:

bigboss · 20 Mar 2016 at 16:38

Sh4rkie said:
Yeah you can't add the two figures together because they were taken at the wall. So the 270w is the full system load with the cpu being stressed 100%. If the application you're using is cpu bound then even a 400w psu would cover it that load. Most server psu's are not 1000w monsters because they don't need to be even with a huge raid array, dual cpus, 64gb ram etc. You'll find the wattage surprisingly small.

I use Cyberlink PD 14 for video editing and that uses gpu processing so even at full whack a 600 / 650w psu is more than fine.

And as for the 700w guy... Not watched the video but unless he had a billion fans / hdds and some very exotic cooling i can't see or understand how a single gpu card plus a processor can get anywhere near that.

My rig is about 6+ years old now and ran i920/930's in it plus 480GTX and 7970 before the Fury. Even the power heavy 480gtx didn't stretch my HX620 psu at the time in heavy gaming.

And to put it into context : https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review,10.html

I timestamped the video so it only shows the part where he says it's over 700w. I have a feeling he's doing something wrong though. His setup is pretty simple.

I did a lot of research comparing power consumption charts and funny enough the results were very similar to yours. So however your measuring your power consumption is pretty accurate. Taken from Anandtech where their test setup is a i7-4960x @ 4.2Ghz hexacore processor. The 4960x is a 22 nm chip with a 130w tdp.

The 4960x overclocked max load is 268.2w (4.3Ghz/1.4v). I compared the overclocked power consumption of the 980ti, Furyx and Fury within crisis 3 since there seems to be a bug with amd cards using furmark. All three of these cards use the exact same test setup.

CPU Max Load Power Consumption (Overclocked)
i7-4960x
268.2w

Total System Power Consumption (Overclocked)
980TI
418w

FuryX
415w

Fury
410w

So your numbers of the cpu taking 260-270w and the Dirt Rally benchmark at 430w is pretty damn accurate. Very cool. Theoretically, even if the CPU+GPU were stressed together I would still have a 220w headroom with a 650w power supply. Side note, so you're still using the HX620?

Sh4rkie · 20 Mar 2016 at 16:46

bigboss said:
Side note, so you're still using the HX620?

No it eventually it gave up on me after 5 years and Corsair swapped it out for a HX650

bigboss · 20 Mar 2016 at 16:55

Thanks guys. You saved me $50 and the hassle of returning my new 650w psu. What I learned is to not trust youtubers and power supply calculators.

Now to do some testing to see if my new psu will help overclock my cpu better than my 10 year old one.

Skyforger · 21 Mar 2016 at 22:14

Hey, im planning to get a x56** and would like to clock it to 4ghz.
But which one to go for, i see 5650 going for 50£ and some 5670 for around 100£ is it worth to get the few extra stock GHz or not ?

DragonQ · 21 Mar 2016 at 22:42

For 4 GHz an X5650 will work perfectly. You only really need the higher multiplier chips if you want to get 4.2 GHz or higher (which is sometimes possible with the X5650 anyway).

Skyforger · 21 Mar 2016 at 22:51

DragonQ said:
For 4 GHz an X5650 will work perfectly. You only really need the higher multiplier chips if you want to get 4.2 GHz or higher (which is sometimes possible with the X5650 anyway).

Ok thnx, bidding on some now.

Uncle_Gravy · 22 Mar 2016 at 09:34

Keep an eye out for the 5660 chips, I had an offer that you'd expect to pay for a 5650 accepted.

spoon · 22 Mar 2016 at 20:33

Skyforger said:
Hey, im planning to get a x56** and would like to clock it to 4ghz.
But which one to go for, i see 5650 going for 50£ and some 5670 for around 100£ is it worth to get the few extra stock GHz or not ?

I had offer of £75 accepted for x5670 - item# 252311257976 if you want to try your luck