Soldato
Yes but how much does it consume for 4.8ghz all core? My guess is 250+. Which is my point all along....any CPU at these clockspeeds is going to be atrocious when it comes to efficiency.
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14th Gen "Raptor Lake Refresh"
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Caporegime
I don't have one but as i said before my single CCD is about 100 watts at 4.8Ghz, the 5950X has two. You're probably not far away but its not over 250 watts.
Intel 4 process node shaping up nicely by the sounds of it: https://www.anandtech.com/show/1744...il-2x-density-scaling-20-improved-performance
Good read. It'll be nice to see Intel and AMD compete on a more equal process footing. Zen3 being on TSMC's 7nm while Intel was still on 14nm with Cometlake, Rocketlake meant they had a huge process advantage. Intel 7 (10nm) with 12th gen gave Intel the overall performance crown back once again, though AMD is about to jump to TSMC's 5nm, so exciting times ahead!
sorry to butt in but I find this power / performance war is very amusing.
This from
Chip Roadmaps Unfold, Crisscrossing And Interconnecting, At AMD
After its acquisitions of ATI in 2006 and the maturation of its discrete GPUs with the Instinct line from the past few years and the acquisitions of
www.nextplatform.com
"The “Golden Cove” core is used in the forthcoming “Sapphire Rapids” Xeon SP processor etched with Intel’s refined 10 nanometer SuperFIN process, known as Intel 7 now, so this Power-Performance-Area, or PPA, comparison is apt for the datacenter as well as for the desktop. Normalized for an 8-core, 16-thread chip running at 3.9 GHz, the Zen 3 core has 45 percent less area, burns 45 percent less power, and offers a smidgen more performance, which equates to a 78 percent better performance per watt. (AMD is mixing data for 8-core and 16-core chips in the chart above, which is annoying.)"
Personally, I can't wait for CDNA3, the DC APU. Got to have super efficiency to cram that into a chip.
Caporegime
sorry to butt in but I find this power / performance war is very amusing.
This from
Chip Roadmaps Unfold, Crisscrossing And Interconnecting, At AMD
After its acquisitions of ATI in 2006 and the maturation of its discrete GPUs with the Instinct line from the past few years and the acquisitions of
"The “Golden Cove” core is used in the forthcoming “Sapphire Rapids” Xeon SP processor etched with Intel’s refined 10 nanometer SuperFIN process, known as Intel 7 now, so this Power-Performance-Area, or PPA, comparison is apt for the datacenter as well as for the desktop. Normalized for an 8-core, 16-thread chip running at 3.9 GHz, the Zen 3 core has 45 percent less area, burns 45 percent less power, and offers a smidgen more performance, which equates to a 78 percent better performance per watt. (AMD is mixing data for 8-core and 16-core chips in the chart above, which is annoying.)"
Personally, I can't wait for CDNA3, the DC APU. Got to have super efficiency to cram that into a chip.
This reminds me of Cloudflare and their reasoning for going EPYC instead of Ice Lake.
The EPYC journey continues to Milan in Cloudflare’s 11th generation Edge Server
At Cloudflare we aim to introduce a new server platform to our edge network every 12 to 18 months or so, to ensure that we keep up with the latest industry technologies and developments.
blog.cloudflare.com
Soldato
That is absolute rubbish. Basically a 5800x at 45 watts outperforms a 12900k with ecores off at 75 watts? Lol, fine, lets put it to the test. Humbug has a 5800x, ask him to upload a cbr23 at 45 watts, the 12900 will absolutely annihilate it at 75 watts.sorry to butt in but I find this power / performance war is very amusing.
This from
Chip Roadmaps Unfold, Crisscrossing And Interconnecting, At AMD
After its acquisitions of ATI in 2006 and the maturation of its discrete GPUs with the Instinct line from the past few years and the acquisitions of
"The “Golden Cove” core is used in the forthcoming “Sapphire Rapids” Xeon SP processor etched with Intel’s refined 10 nanometer SuperFIN process, known as Intel 7 now, so this Power-Performance-Area, or PPA, comparison is apt for the datacenter as well as for the desktop. Normalized for an 8-core, 16-thread chip running at 3.9 GHz, the Zen 3 core has 45 percent less area, burns 45 percent less power, and offers a smidgen more performance, which equates to a 78 percent better performance per watt. (AMD is mixing data for 8-core and 16-core chips in the chart above, which is annoying.)"
Personally, I can't wait for CDNA3, the DC APU. Got to have super efficiency to cram that into a chip.
I cant fathom how you can accept that rubbish as facts. Its mind boggling. Unless im missing something, a zen 3 core at 3.9GHz CANNOT outperform a golden cove core at 3.9 ghz. There is a big ipc difference.
Caporegime
I'm still waiting on that 33 watt 15,000 points Cinebench run video.
Soldato
Why?
Caporegime
Because i want to see it.
Soldato
And the ss is not enough?
Caporegime
No.
Soldato
You realise the biggest reviewing sites dont have videos, right?
Caporegime
And?
Also, shouldn't you be asking some one with a 5950X? given the 12900 is a 16 core CPU?, i only have 8.
Soldato
The article was talking about an 8 core 16 thread cpu, so no.
Caporegime
Then why are you asking me to test it against a 12900?
Caporegime
Can you two take this to a conversation or something, filling this thread full of nothing 
Soldato
Because the article linked says than an 8 core zen 3 at 45w outperforms 8 golden cove cores at 75 watts. You even LIKED the post, which means you agree with it.....
Caporegime
Because its pretty well established at this point Golden Cove cores are much less efficient than Zen 3 cores.
The 12900 still has 16 cores.
Soldato
So thats why im asking you to run your 5800x at 45w,and ill run my 12900 with ecores OFF at 75w. As the article suggests, your 5800 will outperform my 12900. So lets test it. I bet a paycheck, it will be a massacre...
Prove your claim that golden cove cores are less efficient