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14th Gen "Raptor Lake Refresh"
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There is/was certainly an issue, but it seems to have been resolved by a combination of bios updates and possibly some updates pushed via windows update.
Undervolting will further add a layer of protection, although the newer bioses may well have voltage limits on them anyway, I'm unsure about that.
Also it's unclear just how widespread it was - the usual youtubers were certainly suffering from the typical hysteria though, I think!
I don't think I'd buy a second hand one as you don't know it's history, but other than that I wouldn't be too worried.
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There was a certain amount of rhetoric to my post - some people/sources were making out like these CPUs were and would be dropping like flies, but the data so far shows the 14th gen overall having lower failure rates at retail than the AMD 7000 series.
Seems to me like some disgruntled ex-Intel staff, with the timeline vs the Intel lay-offs, have taken some real, but not major, issues and blown them up into a "catastrophic" problem and a lot of the YouTubers got played.
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Not sure the gigabyte has any bios updates as certified with v1.0 I could not find any other updates on website ,also is HW monitor a free application.
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Yes it's free- it's a well known monitoring software:
HWMONITOR | Softwares | CPUID
HWMonitor for Windows® x86/x64 is a hardware monitoring program that reads PC systems main health sensors : voltages, temperatures, powers, currents, fans speed, utilizations, clock speeds ... The program handles : CPU and GPU-level hardware monitoring...
www.cpuid.com
Intel "Bartlett Lake" Appears as a P/E-Core Hybrid, P-Core Only CPUs Could Soon Follow
Intel has launched its first wave of Bartlett Lake processors, introducing hybrid-core models specifically designed for embedded systems, with pure performance-core (P-core) variants scheduled to follow later. The initial release, unveiled at CES, showcases the processors through congatec's new...
There's still a fair amount of interest in Bartlett Lake SKU's. The 12 P core SKU is of particular interest to enthusiasts if they do indeed come to retail.
Could still be some life left in LGA 1700 boards with these.
No, it won't appeal to someone with some knowledge wanting to build a new system. It could still be a drop in though for people still using the platform.
Some really cheap motherboards in the secondhand market as well.
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Intel "Bartlett Lake" Appears as a P/E-Core Hybrid, P-Core Only CPUs Could Soon Follow
Intel has launched its first wave of Bartlett Lake processors, introducing hybrid-core models specifically designed for embedded systems, with pure performance-core (P-core) variants scheduled to follow later. The initial release, unveiled at CES, showcases the processors through congatec's new...www.techpowerup.com
There's still a fair amount of interest in Bartlett Lake SKU's. The 12 P core SKU is of particular interest to enthusiasts if they do indeed come to retail.
Could still be some life left in LGA 1700 boards with these.
No, it won't appeal to someone with some knowledge wanting to build a new system. It could still be a drop in though for people still using the platform.
Some really cheap motherboards in the secondhand market as well.
Still rumours swirling as to potential Bartlett desktop parts - I'm not entirely sure what to make of it as in some ways it would be an odd move, the supposed 12P/24T part has been rumoured to be coming both to LGA1700 and 1851.
A lot of LGA-1700 motherboards have gone EOL though so would additionally make it a bit of an odd move.
On the other hand if the details are correct in that it is essentially what was intended to be Meteor Lake but now sort of Meteor Lake++ it would be considerably better than a lot of people suspect and the 12P/24T would have the last laugh of this generation (including AL and AMD 9000 series) for any thread heavy games.
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Well yes.. Depending on price point and energy efficiency of the new cpus I'd certainly be interested as my motherboard wasn't cheap and I don't really fancy throwing a 14th gen i7 in it.
I think they'd have to if they want to sell any desktop chips rather than emdedded ones.
And they'd have to be priced right.
Maybe AMD has rattled Intel enough to pull thier finger out. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
Mine isn't terrible under real world loads, and that is with air cooling on "silent", but stuff like Cinebench will push past 100C and throttle the CPU if I don't max the fans out and even then it can hit 100C. Gaming and heavier app use generally sitting around 70C, light to moderate desktop loads 33-37C.
Undervolting these chips is definately the way to go.
Mine doesn't like undervolting - though I haven't persisted with it to be fair - though on the flip side it will do a 4 core 6GHz boost with hardly any change to voltages or temperatures. From a fairly superficial look at it seems one core doesn't have much voltage headroom at stock before it becomes unstable but seems happy to go upwards.
I used the Intel Windows overclocking utilities, it helps not having to mess with the bios all the time
I'm happy enough with the stock performance (speed and power/thermals) of mine I don't have much motivation to dabble with it much
and it is difficult to get meaningful gains out of overclocking with these chips without going to significant efforts either.
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Fair point I only used it to tame the beast in terms of temps, it would regularly hit 100c and my Noctua NH-D12L was struggling a bit.I'm happy enough with the stock performance (speed and power/thermals) of mine I don't have much motivation to dabble with it much
Well not really pc savy but i have just got my new pc, I Followed what you guys recommended run cinebench with HWMonitor, my intel cores run hot it got to 90 deg and guess this is my cut off limit only have a fan blower on as cooler thermlite peerless assassin 120 and case fans but my room is warm in winter with heating on and being near a radiator ,so guess i will need a water cooler any recommendations ? and is this a easy task for me my case is a 600 bequiet silver ,I have messed about in intel extreme tunning utility as i could not find easy ways in the bios to drop the wattage it now runs at 126w for the boost not ideal but stopped my cores from over heating in cine bench test stress i managed scores of 2225 single and 31036 multi with max temp of 79 deg ,