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14th Gen "Raptor Lake Refresh"

Why do they like lakes so much? You’d think they would come up with more distinctive / less confusing code names.

Is the thread title wrong? Isn’t 14th gen Meteor Lake and 15th gen Arrow Lake?

Is it correct Meteor Lake won’t support Thunderbolt 5? Seems an oversight not to include it?
 
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I've clearly not been keeping up, I thought the next launch that was expected was for the Raptor Lake refresh, has that been dropped in favour of Meteor Lake? And is Meteor Lake a new architecture or will that be Arrow Lake?

With the addition of AI to the next release of Win11 and the possible launch of Win12 next year the inclusion of a Neural Processing Unit could be interesting with future AI applications.
 
Stu999 said:
Why do they like lakes so much? You’d think they would come up with more distinctive / less confusing code names.

Is the thread title wrong? Isn’t 14th gen Meteor Lake and 15th gen Arrow Lake?

Is it correct Meteor Lake won’t support Thunderbolt 5? Seems an oversight not to include it?
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Nope, thread title is correct. 14th gen is raptor lake refresh. Next gen is Arrow Lake, which will not use the "15th" gen naming scheme, that's being retired.
 
AStaley said:
I've clearly not been keeping up, I thought the next launch that was expected was for the Raptor Lake refresh, has that been dropped in favour of Meteor Lake? And is Meteor Lake a new architecture or will that be Arrow Lake?

With the addition of AI to the next release of Win11 and the possible launch of Win12 next year the inclusion of a Neural Processing Unit could be interesting with future AI applications.
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Meteor Lake laptop only, cancelled for desktop. Desktop gets very boring Raptor Lake refresh and has to wait for early 2024 for Arrow Lake next gen (on new socket, LGA-1851).
 
Dave2150 said:
Meteor Lake laptop only, cancelled for desktop. Desktop gets very boring Raptor Lake refresh and has to wait for early 2024 for Arrow Lake next gen (on new socket, LGA-1851).
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Bit of a pain as I'm going to be building a new gaming rig in time for the Steam phasing out Windows 7 support, so I'll probably buy a 14th gen CPU rather than wait for 2024.
 
Rroff said:
Bit of a pain as I'm going to be building a new gaming rig in time for the Steam phasing out Windows 7 support, so I'll probably buy a 14th gen CPU rather than wait for 2024.
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I'd just install W10/11 on whatever hardware you have temporarily, as both Zen5 and Arrow Lake (LGA-1851 brand new platform) are major new architectures and have many improvements.
 
Dave2150 said:
I'd just install W10/11 on whatever hardware you have temporarily, as both Zen5 and Arrow Lake (LGA-1851 brand new platform) are major new architectures and have many improvements.
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I have a dual-boot 10 and 7 but I'm sticking with 7 for a reason on my main desktop. I wouldn't even bother with building another system for gaming as everything I play currently runs fine at 1440p with an overclocked 10 year old Xeon and a 3070FE LOL but loads of games/launchers are phasing out Windows 7 support now.
 
Intel shows off 16th Gen Lunar Lake processor booting up, built on 1.8nm process node, launching 2025

How is Zen 6 doing?

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Intel Demoes Core "Lunar Lake" Processor from Two Generations Ahead

Intel at the 2023 InnovatiON event surprised audiences with a live demo of a reference notebook powered by a Core "Lunar Lake" processor. What's surprising about this is that "Lunar Lake" won't come out until 2025 (at least), and succeeds not just the upcoming "Meteor Lake" architecture, but...
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Grim5 said:
Intel shows off 16th Gen Lunar Lake processor booting up, built on 1.8nm process node, launching 2025

How is Zen 6 doing?

www.techpowerup.com

Intel Demoes Core "Lunar Lake" Processor from Two Generations Ahead

Intel at the 2023 InnovatiON event surprised audiences with a live demo of a reference notebook powered by a Core "Lunar Lake" processor. What's surprising about this is that "Lunar Lake" won't come out until 2025 (at least), and succeeds not just the upcoming "Meteor Lake" architecture, but...
www.techpowerup.com www.techpowerup.com
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Built on 18A. It’s not 1.8nm as it’s become excepted. I think Intel said they expect 18A to match TSMC 2nm which isn’t 2nm either. Luna should be the point Intel get back in game, but 18A production isn’t looking great.

I think AMD are working on Zen 8
 
Will the i9-14900K be overclockable?
I have my i7-5960X overclocked to 4.2Ghz.
Would like to buy a i9-14900K, when released, and have it run at least that speed if possible, even on the E-cores.
 
Just reading a bit on Anandtech now, and it does seem like the future will continue to be bright for the CPU market.
I'll likely be buying a cheapo Raptor Lake i5 and sticking with it for a many years. With both AMD and Intel really trying to push forward just now though, it will be great for all of us.
I just wish the GPU market was as exciting as the CPU one. :( That's the one where I have a chance of using the performance... :D
 
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Just reading a bit on Anandtech now, and it does seem like the future will continue to be bright for the CPU market.
I'll likely be buying a cheapo Raptor Lake i5 and sticking with it for a many years. With both AMD and Intel really trying to push forward just now though, it will be great for all of us.
I just wish the GPU market was as exciting as the CPU one. :( That's the one where I have a chance of using the performance... :D
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I suppose it depends what you use them for. It doesn’t seem to make a massive difference for games.
 
in all fairness the amd / intel war is good for driving prices, as for people arguing.......i never see the point, everyone will always have a brand they prefer as they know the platform and oc etc etc, i think amd are doing amazing, do i buy them? nope. I know the intel systems and oc stuff, is intel the best? nope. its all need dependant :)
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
Just reading a bit on Anandtech now, and it does seem like the future will continue to be bright for the CPU market.
I'll likely be buying a cheapo Raptor Lake i5 and sticking with it for a many years. With both AMD and Intel really trying to push forward just now though, it will be great for all of us.
I just wish the GPU market was as exciting as the CPU one. :( That's the one where I have a chance of using the performance... :D
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Will be doing the same, since im on the platform already anyway. A raptor refresh 14900k and then use it till it becomes irrelevant like i did with my 3770k which lasted close to 6, maybe 7 years!

Unless something drastic changes like they double the amount of P cores or something insane.
 
The push for AI and the need to speed up AI related processes handled locally could see a number of significant changes within CPU design over the coming years.
 
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