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15 police officers hurt in brixton overnight

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by The_One, Jun 25, 2020.

  1. Yadda

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    :)

    It's almost as though it has more to do with youngsters losing their heads through a combination of cabin fever, hot weather and booze than anything else.
     
  2. i-bert

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    You still don't get it do you. :rolleyes:

    They (BBC) will only mention race if it is a white on black crime, like they did in the GF murder.

    I'm still waiting for proof that this is not the case.
     
  3. The_One

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  4. TheVoice

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    The vast majority of the police's work these days involves dealing with mental health, vulnerability, missing persons and other social issues, so unsurprisingly that's what the criteria for new recruits will focus on.

    In any case, the specialist resources for these types of events do still exist and especially in London, can be called upon for a spontaneous incident but it's up to management ranks to make that decision and not all are willing to, especially in a climate of overreaction to any police use of force that happens to be captured on video and then edited for maximum impact on social media.
     
  5. ianh

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    Thats odd, I didn't write anywhere that the 70's were a time for the current Police to aspire to and yet you've written a very long reply about a situation no-one, and certainly not myself, have talked about. Very strange.
     
  6. stockhausen

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    So what was the point of your opening sentence here :confused:
    It is oftentimes difficult to discern what exactly you are trying to say.

    Very strange.
     
  7. The_Arbiter

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    Having intimidating looking police i don't think is an issue in most situations. If the officers are respectful and doing their duty there's little need to be intimidated. Any runs i've had with the police they've been decent to me/us. Though suspects/wrong doers acting aggressively you need officers who can be intimidating, or ones that are armed with the appropriate gear to defend themselves, or detain said person/s. I think the lack of sentencing and lack of prisons is a probable reason why the police get needless abuse.

    Having a local police officer is a good thing for many reasons, probably some i've not even thought of too, but does open itself up to corruption through favouritism type of behaviour. Still, can't see those kind of police numbers being available ever again sadly.



    I still don't get your point.
     
  8. Derek W

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    He's saying you've got a simple mind because you put wouldn't of instead of wouldn't have in the post he quoted as it's the correct way of using the engerlish langwage. :p
     
  9. Smokey Deza

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    Tsk, spoil sport.
     
  10. NVP

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    Technically "of" is incorrectly used to replace " 've" so he should've written... well, that. :D

    "wouldn't've" I don't think works too well, however i think I would much prefer reading that than the incorrect use of "of".
     
  11. stockhausen

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    Out of curiosity I Googled this practice and encountered this:
    I am not convinced that posters knowingly use contractions, they just type as they speak, a depressing condemnation of our declining education standards, all too often from people who claim to love all things Ingerlich :(
     
  12. ianh

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    I'll hopefully try to explain it better this time. I used the quote from the 70's Officer where he said when they had 6ft+ men they didn't run away, as an example of why it's important to have big strapping male Officers in a riot situation. So my thoughts then were if we had more 6ft+ officers then maybe we wouldn't see scenes of the Police being forced to run away from a baying mob.

    I also said that, despite all the advances of inclusivity in the modern Police with all it's many benefits (of which I gave examples), the current mix of males and females being used to control riots, caused by the overall lack of officers forcing everyone onto the front line, has been shown to be a weak link as evidenced by the Police being forced to run away twice in a matter of weeks, with all the negative "optics" that gives the law abiding folks.

    So at no point did I opine for the return of 70's policing only for more tall/big male Officers for Riot Control and I asked if we should be increasing Police numbers so that, as well as increasing female numbers, we would also get more tall/big men who are better equipped genetically over female officers for violent crowd situations such as these, so that the Police don't have to run away again.

    I "think" that may be more clear but I suppose thats not for me to say really.
     
  13. stockhausen

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    It would probably have been wiser not to mention the Police of the 1970s - who were certainly reputed to be a wee bit corrupt.

    We should certainly be increasing Police numbers (LINK) - remind me who has been in Government for the past ten years?
     
  14. BongoHunter

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    I think they should take a different approach and avoid violence as much as possible - a badly aimed swing of a batton can have serious consequences.

    They should get some kind of device that can be attached to a proper riot van or Land Rover that just sprays rioters or violent protesters with something horrible, like loads of liquified stinky rotton cabbage, cauliflower etc - just make being there so minging and horrible that people would rather leave.

    There must be loads of options for something like this - would be cheap, and no one needs to go to hospital. Happy days.
     
  15. deuse

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  16. NVP

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    This is the type of post I like. Thoughtful, unique and non-inflamatory. Good idea, and hopefully already what we're aiming for. Didn't Boris have something to do with a water cannon at one point?
    This is not any type of post I like. Disgraceful.
     
  17. deuse

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    Looks like you have a short memory.



    And again in 1995

     
  18. NVP

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    And you have an extremely obvious and not well executed agenda.

    People like you fuel hate. People like you are why society is segregated. People like you are shameful in behaviour.
     
  19. Dis86

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    Yes, and they were ruled as being illegal and sold for scrap at a massive loss to the taxpayer.
     
  20. NVP

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    Hahahaha :D