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Absolutely.
Since i started back squatting, deadlifting and other basic compounds, i've felt a lot better and stronger.
Since i started back squatting, deadlifting and other basic compounds, i've felt a lot better and stronger.
Well yeah your right, it is preference really but here's my stance on it....
People in general are already quite knee/quad dominant, anything to battle this is awesome. The improvement in general movement quality and massive stability your hips can provide for everything else is greatly improved with low-bar squatting.
It's hard to say just how good it is until you've done it for a good while. After my 3/4 months of Stronglifts I noticed a massive difference even in my walking quality. I honestly felt I could walk forever and ever and your whole base just feel solid.
IMO/IME etc. etc. Gym Ratz Disclaimer.
Lots to take on board!
I'll be keeping the gloves (my hand span is huge, I can reach both CTRL keys on a full sized keyboard with one hand... I have zero problems gripping the bar), but I'll give the other suggestions a try.
I'll be keeping the gloves (my hand span is huge, I can reach both CTRL keys on a full sized keyboard with one hand... I have zero problems gripping the bar), but I'll give the other suggestions a try.
Lose the gloves. Why would you want to impede grip and bar control? The skin won't fall off your hands. Any discomfort will go in a few sessions. It's simply a fact that your lifting is worse with gloves, and people only generally wear them to look cool or to protect their hands, both of which aren't even a thing.
Squatting with a tampon on the bar is just... terrible. Your squat is a good example of one of the more important reasons why; the weight can end up on your neck.
A belt is pointless, and even damaging, for a beginner.
Sort your footwear out.
Your deadlifts also need to be actual dead lifts, as in you need to reset the weight for each rep.
Read the exercise guide thread.
That clean is, well, not a clean
Squatting with a tampon on the bar is just... terrible. Your squat is a good example of one of the more important reasons why; the weight can end up on your neck.
A belt is pointless, and even damaging, for a beginner.
Sort your footwear out.
Your deadlifts also need to be actual dead lifts, as in you need to reset the weight for each rep.
Read the exercise guide thread.
Read the exercise guide thread!I'll assume Kreeeee won't mind, seeing as he posted them for critique anyway, but what are the opinions on his technique in the 3 vids?
I ask, because it could help me too with some of my bigger compounds.
Squat;
it looked to me like your stance was very wide with your right foot further forward than your left, yet your body looked square on to the rack. The bar looked high on your neck, rather than shoulders (could have been the pad) and it looked to me like you bent too far forward to achieve the weight.
NOW....i'm ONLY saying this because i think i lean too far forward in my own squat and it would help me if the experienced squatters could comment on this.
If i'm wrong with my critique then it shows i need to address my own squatting and i've learned something already
I couldn't find an issue with the clean, so mrthingyx could you clarify and offer correction please? (if only for me?)
Deadlift;
Not sure if i do this myself, but it seemed like you straighten your legs first, then pull your back upright. I 'think' i try to do it all in movement, so the pushing foward of the hips and straightening of back and legs all coincide at the end of the rep.
Again, if i'm wrong, i have learned something else i can correct in my own deads.
That clean is, well, not a clean
Lose gloves.
Lose tampon.
Lose belt. The belts moving up and down your torso and doing anything anyway
Take note of all the advice kreee from the above posters, you've got some nice power behind you, put it to good use.
Lose tampon.
Lose belt. The belts moving up and down your torso and doing anything anyway
Take note of all the advice kreee from the above posters, you've got some nice power behind you, put it to good use.
As icecold pointed out, that 'clean' isn't anything close, I'm afraid... It is more of a bent over row to SLDL to barbell curl.
It would be easier to explain to you how to clean as a completely new technique than try and point out what you should be doing with your existing movement...
Here is my favourite Olympian doing a clean and jerk at full tilt and in slow mo...
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See the difference? Yes, he's been coached since he was 13 or whatever, but look at what he's doing... Also note that a lot of other people on this forum get the clean wrong (including me!), so it's not singling you out, either.
The clean is actually three different movements (which I will make the mistake of paraphrasing here, despite none of them being simple):
1) First pull: holding you torso over the bar, lift it from the floor by pulling your knees back. You will now be in the classic bent over row position.
2) Hip drive: ram your hips through the bar as hard and as fast as they will go, pushing all that power through your heels...
3) Second pull: shrug that bar using your traps for all you're worth!
Get it right and you will look and feel like a minor deity. Carry on doing what you're doing, and you will be heading for a world of back pain.
It would be easier to explain to you how to clean as a completely new technique than try and point out what you should be doing with your existing movement...
Here is my favourite Olympian doing a clean and jerk at full tilt and in slow mo...
See the difference? Yes, he's been coached since he was 13 or whatever, but look at what he's doing... Also note that a lot of other people on this forum get the clean wrong (including me!), so it's not singling you out, either.
The clean is actually three different movements (which I will make the mistake of paraphrasing here, despite none of them being simple):
1) First pull: holding you torso over the bar, lift it from the floor by pulling your knees back. You will now be in the classic bent over row position.
2) Hip drive: ram your hips through the bar as hard and as fast as they will go, pushing all that power through your heels...
3) Second pull: shrug that bar using your traps for all you're worth!
Get it right and you will look and feel like a minor deity. Carry on doing what you're doing, and you will be heading for a world of back pain.
If you have little/no inclination for Olympic lifting (sorry mrthingyx) then OHP from the rack, you will make better press progress without putting yourself in a position of unessecary risk. I personally have don't do the oly lifts because I don't have access to proper training and equipment, and it's quite advanced to try as a relative lifting beginner.
I quite agree with you. I still have no idea why 'Starting Strength' includes the clean as it's not easy even when one has a professional coach.
Put it this way: I do a lot of cean work in my training but I OHP from a rack.
Squat and dl in your socks.
With no sissy pad be prepared for it to be uncomfortable for a week or two, it isn't pleasant at first, if it helps drop the weight back a little as you get used to it. I crossed over to no pad at around the 100kg mark and it was sucky, but now it feels natural.
With no sissy pad be prepared for it to be uncomfortable for a week or two, it isn't pleasant at first, if it helps drop the weight back a little as you get used to it. I crossed over to no pad at around the 100kg mark and it was sucky, but now it feels natural.
It took lots of people with weaker presses to make you do what I said in the first place?!
Where's your squat video?
Doesn't matter because I just use the bar like a MAN, hurr!
You've got the mains. I can't recommend lifting in socks enough, do it. Almost certainly drop weights to gain confidence in your new tekkers, watch some good low bar squat videos to understand the positioning properly. Don't be surprised if you lack enough external rotation at the moment, it will come.
+ Rippetoe Starting Strength