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Armageus said:
It has been explained before, but the short answer is no.

Any lesser CPUs get sold in lower clocked or non overclocked prebuilt machines.
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Explained before like many many times.......

We sell a lot of stock no OC machines to business these CPU's which are system only stock go into those machines.

Retail or website OEM stocks never tested.
 
String said:
Where did 8 Pack say he was working on de-lidded CPU's? The last I saw was him saying Intel work hard to improve the paste.

I'm not claiming he didn't mention de-lidded, just that if he has then I've missed it.
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Intel do work hard to improve the products. They have many reasons why the current paste is there optimal solution all are under NDA.

I still want them to go even higher so I dellid at the highest OC level only.
 
String said:
Yea, surely they can give us that much?

Confirm or deny, we know you're reading this. :cool:
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This should be obvious even to a very young child.

Zen is not ready yet, Turbo clocks not revealved and still some bugs to iron out in it's microcode etc. We're talking several weeks at least, most likely a month or two.

This thread is for Kabylake, and Kabylake only. OCUK are heavily involved in the launch event with Intel, and have received thousands of Kabylake CPU's weeks ago so that they could build up a stock of binned and delidded options.

The actual CPU is very boring, since it's just a 6700k +200Mhz. Exactly the same architecture with no changes to the cores.

The only interesting thing is the delidded service with full warranty, though I imagine these will be at least £100 more expensive than than buying the CPU on it's own, making it pointless for 1-2 fps.

Sensible option is to wait for Zen, as it will most likely force Intel to significantly price cut their whole lineup.
 
It just seems like madness to me that for your average user, there hasn't been anything in the mainstream segment offering MAJOR benefits over chips released 5 years ago.

I know that if I upgrade to Kabylake, it will probably offer a decent clock for clock improvement over my Sandybridge i7, but my i7 is sitting quite happily at 5GHz, so I probably still wouldn't upgrade even now.

When I built my PC back in 2011 I always said that I would upgrade when we reached Skylake, because I was sure that my system would feel outdated by now. And yet here we are, Skylake has been and gone, and I still don't feel like its worth it! :(

When does the NDA lift?
 
Dave2150 said:
This should be obvious even to a very young child.

Zen is not ready yet, Turbo clocks not revealved and still some bugs to iron out in it's microcode etc. We're talking several weeks at least, most likely a month or two.

This thread is for Kabylake, and Kabylake only. OCUK are heavily involved in the launch event with Intel, and have received thousands of Kabylake CPU's weeks ago so that they could build up a stock of binned and delidded options.

The actual CPU is very boring, since it's just a 6700k +200Mhz. Exactly the same architecture with no changes to the cores.

The only interesting thing is the delidded service with full warranty, though I imagine these will be at least £100 more expensive than than buying the CPU on it's own, making it pointless for 1-2 fps.

Sensible option is to wait for Zen, as it will most likely force Intel to significantly price cut their whole lineup.
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you Intel fan boys are hilarious at times. Zen will be 3.4ghz stock confirmed, Boost Clocks will depend on your cooling solution, Boost Clocks have been disabled to keep Intel on their toes, and the Canard PC article was using earlier samples(CPU and motherboard) which is why gaming performance sucked a bit but other stuff equal or better than 6900k.
 
Dave2150 said:
This should be obvious even to a very young child.

Zen is not ready yet, Turbo clocks not revealved and still some bugs to iron out in it's microcode etc. We're talking several weeks at least, most likely a month or two.

This thread is for Kabylake, and Kabylake only. OCUK are heavily involved in the launch event with Intel, and have received thousands of Kabylake CPU's weeks ago so that they could build up a stock of binned and delidded options.
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Yes definitely Kaby Lake as Gibbo prob have 5000 Kaby Lake CPUs stockpiled to get it ready for launch few days away now, there are lots of Z270 motherboards picture leaked over the last week so retailers should have Z270 motherboards stockpiled already.

Of course Zen is not ready yet, CPU still in ES stage but retail CPU is a month or 2 months away from now and also retail AM4 motherboards did not existed yet. AMD shipped chipsets to motherboard makers last week, they should have retail AM4 motherboard prototypes build already and testing in the next few weeks then if it all go well and they will start volume production of final retail motherboards that will ship to retailers by end of Feb or March 2017.
 
Legend said:
Really?? Is that official? Where did you hear that? Last I heard it was going to be March! I don't doubt more of Ryzen will be shown at CES, but available that soon? I don't know about that...
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well they started showing Zen at Hotchips Last year, Guys like Ryan from PC Perspective and a bunch of other guys were invited since it was down the street from Intel(23 August).

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10591...t-2-extracting-instructionlevel-parallelism/8

It was initially planned for Q4 last year and pushed to January 2017, to either further optimise it or to launch it together with Vega.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-zen-8-core-summit-ridge-to-launch-january-17th-2017.html

When AMD or any Company mentions 1H they mean anytime from January to June they don't want to say they will release a product at a certain date then delays happen, they will be sued by investor's for lying.
 
Acme said:
It just seems like madness to me that for your average user, there hasn't been anything in the mainstream segment offering MAJOR benefits over chips released 5 years ago.

I know that if I upgrade to Kabylake, it will probably offer a decent clock for clock improvement over my Sandybridge i7, but my i7 is sitting quite happily at 5GHz, so I probably still wouldn't upgrade even now.

When I built my PC back in 2011 I always said that I would upgrade when we reached Skylake, because I was sure that my system would feel outdated by now. And yet here we are, Skylake has been and gone, and I still don't feel like its worth it! :(

When does the NDA lift?
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NDA lift on 3 Jan 2017 9AM PT :)

http://videocardz.com/65146/intel-kaby-lake-200-series-motherboards
 
Paper launch on Jan 17th perhaps, but I'd expect that sooner at CES tbh. I'll be stunned if it's actually available for purchase then. Can't see that happening, but I'd love to be wrong.
 
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