1930s Semi Refurb - Part 1 of ... (Edition: Bathroom Relocation)

jpaul · 29 Jan 2024 at 10:33

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... could embed a smart switch inside spur wall box, if you trust the minis reliability & current capability

SONOFF MINI Extreme (MINIR4) ESP32 WiFi smart switch can fit into most gang boxes - CNX Software

SONOFF MINI Extreme (aka MINIR4) is a ridiculously small WiFi smart switch based on ESP32 wireless microcontroller and designed to be connected to a load

www.cnx-software.com

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dlockers · 29 Jan 2024 at 15:16

Going to order the following --- RCD will go outside at top of door frame. Entire bathroom will be protected by that RCD.

Sockets will be hidden beneath shelf; flex outlet is for radiator.

Also, ordered this tanking kit:

200sols · 29 Jan 2024 at 15:23

Circuit should be RCD protected from the main box so not sure why you're putting that in. Any socket needs to be 3m from bath or shower, not possible in your room.

dlockers · 29 Jan 2024 at 15:30

200sols said:
Circuit should be RCD protected from the main box so not sure why you're putting that in. Any socket needs to be 3m from bath or shower, not possible in your room.

I figure a way to isolate the entire bathroom quickly and easily, separate to the upstairs ring could be useful. I could just put a fused spur but figure no harm in an RCD "even closer" to the load on its own circuit.

The switch being available/easily visible is especially "important" as the sockets themselves will be hidden permanently under the shelf of the false wall. The only reason I am doing a socket is so I can have a smart plug.

200sols · 29 Jan 2024 at 15:48

dlockers said:
I figure a way to isolate the entire bathroom quickly and easily, separate to the upstairs ring could be useful. I could just put a fused spur but figure no harm in an RCD "even closer" to the load on its own circuit.

The switch being available/easily visible is especially "important" as the sockets themselves will be hidden permanently under the shelf of the false wall. The only reason I am doing a socket is so I can have a smart plug.

Doesn't matter why, it's against the regs.

dlockers · 29 Jan 2024 at 15:56

200sols said:
Doesn't matter why, it's against the regs.

Space under a bath that requires a tool to get access to is outside of the zone.

200sols · 29 Jan 2024 at 16:05

dlockers said:
Space under a bath that requires a tool to get access to is outside of the zone.

It is, but but you said under a shelf next to the toilet.

dlockers · 29 Jan 2024 at 16:13

200sols said:
It is, but but you said under a shelf next to the toilet.

Same same then, given the false wall envelops the bath. The "shelf" is just the cover for lower half; the second half being ceiling height and containing the niche. I can access the plugs by removing the panel or removing the shelf. Either way, I think I am in the spirit of the regs. Unless someone was demolishing the bathroom they'd never find it - so confident no wet hands are going to be touching them as anyone other than me and this forum won't know they exist; and the whole lot can be isolated from outside the room. If I was a tradie working for a Customer though, I wouldn't do this for them.

dlockers · 29 Jan 2024 at 16:17

dlockers said:
Same same then, given the false wall envelops the bath. The "shelf" is just the cover for lower half; the second half being ceiling height and containing the niche. I can access the plugs by removing the panel or removing the shelf. Either way, I think I am in the spirit of the regs. Unless someone was demolishing the bathroom they'd never find it - so confident no wet hands are going to be touching them as anyone other than me and this forum won't know they exist; and the whole lot can be isolated from outside the room. If I was a tradie working for a Customer though, I wouldn't do this for them.

To put this whole thing to bed though - I could put the ring in the attic and then run a wire. Not sure why I didn't think of that --- as I want sockets in the attic anyway.

visibleman · 29 Jan 2024 at 17:23

dlockers said:
The only reason I am doing a socket is so I can have a smart plug.

Worth looking at Shelly products like the Plus or Mini, as you can just bury it within a backbox.

Buffman · 29 Jan 2024 at 18:46

jpaul said:
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... could embed a smart switch inside spur wall box, if you trust the minis reliability & current capability

SONOFF MINI Extreme (MINIR4) ESP32 WiFi smart switch can fit into most gang boxes - CNX Software

SONOFF MINI Extreme (aka MINIR4) is a ridiculously small WiFi smart switch based on ESP32 wireless microcontroller and designed to be connected to a load

www.cnx-software.com

)

Thank you for linking this/informing me of these. I'm seperately going to send to a family member so they could use these for their towel rails

jpaul · 29 Jan 2024 at 20:53

(as said - he can just have a flex outlet ... that's not a socket)

e: Was going to ask the channeling work - angle grinder & hammer was just on Saturday ? otherwise neighbours must love you.

dlockers · 29 Jan 2024 at 21:18

jpaul said:
(as said - he can just have a flex outlet ... that's not a socket)

e: Was going to ask the channeling work - angle grinder & hammer was just on Saturday ? otherwise neighbours must love you.

The flex outlet will be beneath the radiator itself; that would be wired to a plug in the attic essentially.

Channelling - I use a wall chaser and an SDS channelling attachment. Probably less than 5 mins of noise. No religious crackpots made a complaint about sacred sundays yet

dlockers · 30 Jan 2024 at 13:46

Is this the right stuff to skim the joints on the plaster? It has tapered edges joining in places so some reasonable 3-4mm voids to fill. Also, will it cope with the humidity on the ceiling?

Gyproc Easifill 20 Filler

Quicker set and 20 minute pot life for smaller interior filling repairs.Easy to mix, apply and sand.Low shrinkage and cracking.

www.toolstation.com

For joint tape - I assume I use the regular mesh type stuff?

Thanks!

200sols · 30 Jan 2024 at 13:58

You can use that if its a small job, probably find easyfill 60 easier to work with though.

dlockers · 30 Jan 2024 at 14:40

200sols said:
You can use that if its a small job, probably find easyfill 60 easier to work with though.

Dude I am such a tard I had no idea thats what the number at the end meant.

dirtychinchilla · 30 Jan 2024 at 15:58

Does this bathroom look directly out onto the street? Looks like it's almost street level. I'd defiinitely get caught out with that

dlockers · 30 Jan 2024 at 16:06

dirtychinchilla said:
Does this bathroom look directly out onto the street? Looks like it's almost street level. I'd defiinitely get caught out with that

Haha, nah - luckily we are one of the few houses not really overlooked at all at the front. It is second floor; and we are on a hill.

Obviously blinds will be fitted (shutters to match downstairs probably).

dirtychinchilla · 30 Jan 2024 at 16:25

dlockers said:
Haha, nah - luckily we are one of the few houses not really overlooked at all at the front. It is second floor; and we are on a hill.

Obviously blinds will be fitted (shutters to match downstairs probably).

Otherwise someone else will find out whether the blinds match the drapes....no joke there is there?

dlockers · 30 Jan 2024 at 16:27

dirtychinchilla said:
Otherwise someone else will find out whether the blinds match the drapes....no joke there is there?