Regarding the towel radiator being electric or plumbed, do both. You can get electrical elements for towel radiators so they are still warmed during the summer as required. Search for towel radiator element.
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Regarding the towel radiator being electric or plumbed, do both. You can get electrical elements for towel radiators so they are still warmed during the summer as required. Search for towel radiator element.
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You can get dual fuel elements for towel rails so you can use the electric element or normally fed by boiler. That's what I have.
Id recommend a stainless steel radiotor if you want to avoid rust, but then I hate gold sanitary ware/ironmongery..
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I wouldn't worry about siting the valve in the loft, there are probably hundreds of thousands of them up and down the country in a cold loft with no issues.I think the risk of that happening has totally put me off
So two follow up questions for everyone:
- ventilation - I want something overspecced I think. Because of the hip roof I'll need to vent out of the roof tiles. Is there any kits I can get? Will be engaging my famous plumbing duo to tackle this (the dad is a roofer/carpenter and they did my loft boiler).
- underfloor heating - the wet system isn't on enough to feel the benefit (heating rarely on), so are electric systems ok in a space this size? I could ask Alexa to boost it before a shower or put it on timer?
I had an Aqualisa one in my last house and never had a problem. Not sure what the Mira is like, maybe they are a bit more fussy with temps.
Id guess that any temp issues are down to poorly insulated pipes that connect to the valve. Come to think of it I've never had any pipes, tanks etc freeze in all the places I've lived.
Just noticed they do bath fillers
HiQu Concealed Digital Bath - HP/CombiElegant and contemporary, HiQu Digital Shower combines the intelligence of Aqualisa's tried and tested digital showering technology with a compact design to deliver a truly intuitive shower. Customise and create the perfect bathroom accompaniment with HiQu Digital Shower, choosing a separate...
www.aqualisa.co.uk
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Mega, cheers chaps. Didn't realise they did dualies.
I'm not sure on the gold colour either; it puts you into a right rabbit hole on all the other fixtures/fittings too.
Need a lottery win now lol.Just noticed they do bath fillers
HiQu Concealed Digital Bath - HP/Combi
Elegant and contemporary, HiQu Digital Shower combines the intelligence of Aqualisa's tried and tested digital showering technology with a compact design to deliver a truly intuitive shower. Customise and create the perfect bathroom accompaniment with HiQu Digital Shower, choosing a separate...
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Can you sort my bathroom out as well @dlockers, in return I'll build a case for Making Dlockers React Again
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Sorry my fault 
they are a bit pricey.
they are a bit pricey.
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Contingency is normal 30% of budget? It's always funny watching Grand Designs and the overspend/delays, often caused by overly ambitious timeframes.
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)Would you recommend a system like that? Any thoughts on where I can go to learn the process? I'll leverage @Buffman's thread regarding tanking...spankers...etc.Yeah you can do that. (picture here not that I am recommending this website
I think I'll start with..............
1. Remove plaster on walls that will be tiled
2. Strip wallpaper from walls that will be painted.
3. Strip paper from ceiling; tidy up what I can and paint.
4. Lift floor/assess
5. First fix plumbing
6. First fix wiring (remove sockets/extend the ring to the attic for the shower*/fused spur for the towel heater**)
7.
On * and ** (electrics) - I guess I run fused spurs with RCD rather than extend the ring?
At Step 7 - I guess I need to get my head around this tray/base situation for the shower. I presume I fit the base for the shower first and then board around it?
1) Yes, or mechanically over board with 6mm backer boards.
2) Yes.
3) Panel over with pvc boards instead.
4) Yes. Careful, they like to put pipes right on the floor.
5) easy
6) While its not an electric shower per se if this shower has power at the controls inside the wet area then it will be notifiable work.
7) Decide if going full wet room or not, length available for shower will determine, you may get away with just a side panel with return. Shower tray and floor will need to be at same height, wooden floor will need overboarding with e.g 4/6 6mm marmox depending on tray thickness.
2) Yes.
3) Panel over with pvc boards instead.
4) Yes. Careful, they like to put pipes right on the floor.
5) easy
6) While its not an electric shower per se if this shower has power at the controls inside the wet area then it will be notifiable work.
7) Decide if going full wet room or not, length available for shower will determine, you may get away with just a side panel with return. Shower tray and floor will need to be at same height, wooden floor will need overboarding with e.g 4/6 6mm marmox depending on tray thickness.
1) I know its only ~10mm but I don't think I can afford it! I was thinking insulated backer as its an external wall, too.
3) It's a hipped roof so has a bend in it. Not found something to convince me it won't look like a static caravan yet. That would solve a big headache though.... will research again, thanks.
6) I think the controls are CANBus/ethernet, the wire feeds up the shower head "holder" - so the fused spur just needs to be in the loft. I might break every rule and extend the ring into the attic, to give myself some sockets and a fused spur.
You can also get wireless controls.
7) I am thinking I just get something like this? Maybe not as a kit -
wedi Fundo Primo Shower Kit - Tiling Supplies Direct
The wedi Fundo Primo Shower Kit is a complete kit in one box for the creation of a corner shower that is level with the floor.
www.tilingsuppliesdirect.co.uk
I was concerned I would need to tank a wider area, but I presume I can use a lesser level of waterproofing for the splash zone?
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I'm sure its just a data cable so don't think its notifiable.
Normally you'd be looking at a 1400mm length minimum for a walk in shower to avoid tanking the entire room, then using a side panel with return. You can easily do the same as that link with your own boards and tray.
Avoid the wooden effect stuff it looks crap, the matt or gloss white is fine.
Mira one is pumped too from the a system tank - so those gubbins were in the (freezing) loft too,
least ways I don't think there was a new pumped feed, lower than shower head off the top of tank.
but if the pump were high up, it always seems it would have to suck up the water from tank - so don't really understand
Scaling/de-scaling maintenance is another concern have in the valves.
least ways I don't think there was a new pumped feed, lower than shower head off the top of tank.
but if the pump were high up, it always seems it would have to suck up the water from tank - so don't really understand
Scaling/de-scaling maintenance is another concern have in the valves.
Thanks, sorry to keep bugging you (several pints waiting when you visit to get cracking) but what board/tanking gear do you recommend? I have no preferred supplier... I got my tile backer from TileExperience. They do these:
Marmox Showerlay 360 Linear Drain Offset
Fully waterproof Pre-formed with built-in fall ready to receive tiling Lightweight, ease of handling Quick and easy installation Floor level, barrier free shower base Marmox Lifetime guarantee Check image for dimensions
www.tileexperience.co.uk
Also, where do you get your cladding from?
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Re bath tap position
What is the other side of the bath wall?is it studding?
If so IF you ever had to repair/change the taps you could cut an access from the other side.Not ideal but possible
Getting to change the taps from under the bath would be near to impossible i reckon
Either way shut off valves or gate valves on all taps is my advice
What is the other side of the bath wall?is it studding?
If so IF you ever had to repair/change the taps you could cut an access from the other side.Not ideal but possible
Getting to change the taps from under the bath would be near to impossible i reckon
Either way shut off valves or gate valves on all taps is my advice
I've used marmox and jackoboard and aquafix but they're all pretty much the same product (the boards that is).Thanks, sorry to keep bugging you (several pints waiting when you visit to get cracking) but what board/tanking gear do you recommend? I have no preferred supplier... I got my tile backer from TileExperience. They do these:
Marmox Showerlay 360 Linear Drain Offset
Fully waterproof Pre-formed with built-in fall ready to receive tiling Lightweight, ease of handling Quick and easy installation Floor level, barrier free shower base Marmox Lifetime guarantee Check image for dimensions
Also, where do you get your cladding from?
40mm shower tray may present you issues, if you sit it on joists suitably braced then you'll need to raise the rest of the floor by about 20mm, when you add tiles and adhesive you will end up with a decent ~35mm step into the room.
AquaFix Low Profile Tileable Wetroom Shower Trays
AquaFix Low Profile Tileable Wetroom Shower Trays
pureadhesion.co.uk
For idea and bracing.
How to install a shower tray onto joists, super low level shower
To create a super low level shower tray which gives a walkin shower or wetroom look, the shower tray needs to be sunken into the floor and installed ontop of...
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You see on that link, the sides of the joist are fitted with some batten, noggins or whatever and ply is screwed between the joists to give a flat surface for the tray to sit on.
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