Again in case you can't read I wasn't classing them all as rapists at all.
It seems if you speak against this type of thing you must read EDL literature? Please grow up.
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2,000 migrants tried to enter channel tunnel last night!
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Again in case you can't read I wasn't classing them all as rapists at all.
It seems if you speak against this type of thing you must read EDL literature? Please grow up.
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Correct, so assuming that the gov pays for their food, the equivalent proportion in rent that I would pay i.e a 2 bed house, they take one room and gov pays half the rent and all bills, you honestly think that people wouldn't take that?
Of course only a few would, but it would alleviate some of the issue would it not?
If I was living in a house with empty rooms and that was a scheme I would honestly consider it yes.
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Boycey0211 and vidar have been totally converted to a ethical inaptitude of a sock.
I don't know what you getting at, I just don't understand how you can think we can accept more and more people for the sake of humanity.
Lets just let them in and feed, house and clothe them. 10,000 this year, 50,000 next year. 100,000 the year after, see my point it has to stop somewhere.
I do understand genuine women and children in desperation, but these are all young ass thugs breaking the law for a better life.
I could think of a million ways to break the law for a better life!
Yer I want them in my country all day!
Enough of them around here as it is, and am talking Caucasian born and bred in UK.
Another solid argument backed up by facts by itchy talking ****
Immigration figures havent risen significantly since about 2004
Please swap places with them, you make it sound so easy.
I appreciate the sentiment but please don't call me Jesus, you're too kind...
I never said all of their issues would disappear, it was a pretty big point I was making and I'm amazed you managed to miss it so completely but hey I'm a charitable kind of fellow so I'll spell it out for you...
If in a country where famine was rife you got the agricultural industry (that's the one that specializes in farming) to go over and train up subsistence farmers on modern farming techniques, provide modern utilities such as effective irrigation for crops and provided them with modern equipment. Well the famine there might just be stopped and people might have enough to eat so those people who are starving and flee their countries might not have to any more.
I'm hoping you don't need me to explain what the pharmaceutical companies could do and how that might benefit people and relieve some of the immigration problem.
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Yes, and they end up taking a social housing home while a UK citizen spends their fifth year on the waiting list.
The other day I saw a program where a 61 year old who had worked almost his entire life, split up with his wife, lost his job, lost his son in a car accident and couldn't afford to get a place. He was living in doorways and public toilets for two years while on the waiting list, and he still couldn't get a flat. WTF is going on there?
Yes, let's import people from countries with no real functioning government or law enforcement system. What could possibly go wrong?
As noble as it is to want to help people in ostensibly desperate situations, it needs to be done with careful consideration for the impact on social cohesion. A lot of these people are young, apparently violent men and I don't think we should be welcoming them with open arms. If they had a genuine case then surely they wouldn't need to try to enter the country illegaly?
I say we open a register where anyone willing to help allows a "refugee" to stay in a spare room in their house and takes complete legal responsibility for their behaviour. We don't have enough housing to go around as it is.
While we're at it, close the tunnel for a few weeks to send a message. There must be some seriously distorted information about the UK being bandied around if people are willing to risk death on the Eurostar lines for it.
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It seems you missed my point as well but not to worry.
The result of decades of under-investment in social housing stock by successive governments.
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If we can't house our own, how can we possibly house everyone else?
The naivety, is palpable.
Both industries couldn't give a ****, they profit or do nothing, lets go into the motions of what a big fat profit minded agricultural giant does.
It invents a GM crop that must be used with a very specific company made concoction of sprays to keep the local wildlife from eating the crops, all well and good until you realise the farmers are now forced to only rear this single crop forever as the costs, are just enough to stop them from moving off.
Eventually the biodiversity starts dropping, the GM crop starts failing as pests grow resilience, but hey, there's this...new GM crop now, just pay $$$.
Of course a little bit further into the future and yields of none GM crops fall to a pittance as the pests resilience to the modified crop basically makes it immune to normal fertilizer.
Congrats you enslaved a generation of farmers into subservience to the one true god, Monsanto.
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Yes agreed 100%, so where is the thread on that? I can't one or see anyone up in arms about the situation for him except you because everyone else is too busy panicking that some people have been in the daily mail trying to get through a tunnel. Ask itchy to give the poor fella £5. See what he says.
We're not talking about 'importing' people though are we? They're trying to get in themselves.
As for the illegal issue, I've explained it but that was a few pages of drivel back now.
They have no passports, because having a passport will get you deported pretty damn quick. In order to get here, they can't just jump on a plane, because what do you get asked for before you get on the plane???? Same with the ferry, no passport no travel. Only option left is the back of a truck
I think you're talking pure ****e there to be honest. I would honestly love to see people with the same views as yourself do this and come back to you after a year to see how it's going.
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And if it didn't work I'd tell you so and admit I was wrong.
I'd rather atleast try that than put 2000 people to death because I'm angry that my takes have paid for a travelodge prior to them earning a living.
Not sure if serious or troll?
Immigration has not risen since 2004.
http://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/briefings/migrants-uk-overview
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But yes, hear me now as I am the voice of reason!
I can wholly sympathise why no one would want to live in the middle east or poorer African countries. I've been all over and generally it's not good!
No sarcasm my good man, genuinely it's good to see more people who actually seem to get it.
See the problem is though that you did pretty much say that immigrants move in to your area and sex crimes go up, its a blatant insinuation of that... Something the likes of the EDL come up with on a regular basis that for some reason normally intelligent people take on as fact.
Erm so these programs you're watching that are basically controlled by the government have no political agenda whatsoever??? And in case you missed it earlier the government just scrapped a whole load of new council housing being built. They system works on a priority basis those who are more desperate get help first. Are you saying just because someone who's an immigrant should have to live on the streets even though they may have more need?
Well we'll see what happens when the truck drivers arm themselves.
If they're not sent straight back to Calais then we pretty much are importing them! it's astounding that Airport security is so tight yet the channel tunnel seems to be treated as an almost trivial matter. I almost admire some of these people for making it through but I'm definitely worried about exactly who or what they could be (ISIS?)
Oh come on, quite a few of those who don't have a real case will have had passports and thrown them away before they head over here because they know it lessens the chance of deportation (if not making it impossible).
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Sorry, it seemed like you were blaming immigrants for the utter failure that is social housing policy in the UK.
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Not a chance I'd take it. You think I'd be happy letting some random Eritrean immigrant get the run of my house. I'd rather live on bread and water to pay the rent than that. I shouldn't think I'm the only one who feels this way.
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