Yup.
I'll be hobbling around, possibly on crutches. In Norfolk anyway that weekend as I have a wedding to go to on the saturday.
But as I have to suffer on saturday, I have a treat on sunday.
2008 Belgian GP - Race 13/18
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Yup.
I'll be hobbling around, possibly on crutches. In Norfolk anyway that weekend as I have a wedding to go to on the saturday.
But as I have to suffer on saturday, I have a treat on sunday.
yes there is rules about using the race track lol
he used a corner cut to to gain a position just like he did in france
maybe he should learn the rules and grow up?
had he not cut the corner he would be nowhere near to kimi into turn 1 kimi had defended his line and lewis would have lost time if he never cut the corner
Soldato
Why when Kimi left the door wide open? So much as even delibrately moving over to the undefendable line half way down the straight? LH would have been happy to keep the line he had into the corner. But Kimi literally just gave his optimal line away free of charge to Hamilton.
Soldato
Kimi left the track too and gained more of an advantage. Especially since Hamilton gave his advantage back. Kimi kept his advantage until he proceeded to stack his car into a wall from becoming hot headed.
Why should he? Hamilton is ahead on the outside and holds a position on the outside of the track.
Kimi defending his position very well should not force option A) hit me or option B) leave the track, or maybe it should? If Hamilton had hit Kimi both of them would be sat in the pit lane wall and Massa would have had a lot more points..
Why? The facts are, Hamilton enters the complex in front, Hamilton leaves the complex in front, HAMILTON RELINQUISHES BEING IN FRONT, and EARNS it back under braking into the next corner.
Rubbish, turn 1 was slippy and KR was super conservative on the braking, LH outbroke him from behind! If LH had followed KR through the complex he still would have been able to do that with or without the cut.
Depends on the nature of the specific racing incident.
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What about KR leaving the track Pouhen and using the run off the way he did, it is obvious why he did that and it was also obvious he carried more momentum into the next corner.
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I really hope McLaren stick it to Ferrari next week - really give them a good hiding.
Soldato
Its quite interesting that Charlie Whiting who used to be a race director for years and has been involved in motor racing said it was ok, but was over ruled by a bloke who has only been involved in racing for a short time and made race director in Jan 08. This bloke, Alan Donnelly, is a career politician owns a company called Sovereign Strategy, if you look on the clients list it lists
Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile
Formula One Management Ltd
And one of his close friends is Max Mosley, Hmmmmm
Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile
Formula One Management Ltd
And one of his close friends is Max Mosley, Hmmmmm
Not much point in going to the rest of the meetings with the FIA's new rule book. No overtaking of the Ferraris shall be allowed! I think they should change it to if you want to overtake a Ferrari you have to get in front of it, then get behind it and then you're allowed to overtake.. oh wait..
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I haven't read all this thread so I don't know if this video has been posted, but there has been a situation exactly like this before. Here's a video of Alonso and Klien at Suzuka 2005:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vdy6qzI2-A4
Alonso cuts the chicance to overtake Klien, he lets him back through but is instantly in a position to overtake at the next corner (which he wouldn't otherwise have been in, just like Hamilton). The FIA then ordered Alonso to let Klien back through several laps later.
So at Belgium they are simply applying the rules they have used in the past, except all the Hamilton fans can't seem to understand he had a major advantage being right behind Kimi which he wouldn't have had if he didn't cut the corner.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vdy6qzI2-A4
Alonso cuts the chicance to overtake Klien, he lets him back through but is instantly in a position to overtake at the next corner (which he wouldn't otherwise have been in, just like Hamilton). The FIA then ordered Alonso to let Klien back through several laps later.
So at Belgium they are simply applying the rules they have used in the past, except all the Hamilton fans can't seem to understand he had a major advantage being right behind Kimi which he wouldn't have had if he didn't cut the corner.
Soldato
Fair enough, then the argument becomes consitency. In the Alonso case, he had to give the place back to Klien again, yet the stewards at Spa gave Hamilton a drive through (applied post race as a 25 seconds penalty).
Surely they should use precedents and just drop him a place? Or am I just being silly and using common sense?
Surely they should use precedents and just drop him a place? Or am I just being silly and using common sense?
Soldato
No, but he gained an advantage.
And at that point of the race that way round probably was quicker as there was less rubber down on that part of the track. Look up the 'karting line' in google and why it's helpful in the wet.
because he is out of track thats why maybe?
if there was a gravel trap on his left he would have backed off
he is not ahead at all
watch the video kimi is ahead
Soldato
Yeah because grass is a fast as tarmac in the wet.
How bout you take off your red-tinted glasses and then post in the thread?
and clearly not ahead when he decides he is too good to lift and cuts the track
still gained an advantage which is your point i believe?
Neither did Hamilton from cutting the corner.
KR was visibly faster because he used the extra bit of the track.. and then, KR is in front AGAIN ANYWAY for a brief period of time. So technically LH let KR back past twice before KR decided to end his race.
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