So one minute you are saying he is not ahead, the next you say he is, trolling for anything specific?
2008 Belgian GP - Race 13/18
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So one minute you are saying he is not ahead, the next you say he is, trolling for anything specific?
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The incident happened with 2 laps to go so the FIA didn't have chance to assess the move and order Hamilton to let Kimi through again. I'm sure if Kimi had finished 2nd they would have simply switched the positions after the race.
The fact that Kimi didn't finish made it harder to apply the same penalty Alonso received, but they had to do something because Hamilton broke a rule. A 10 second drive through penalty is the most common penalty handed out for racing infringements.
Neither did Hamilton from cutting the corner.
do you only watch f1 on the news or something?
he gained an advantage his move in turn 1 only came about due to him cutting the chicane or he would not have been close
You clearly watched a totally different race to most people.
watched the video at all?
thought not troll where did i say he was ahead?
thats right you did not me
I'll ignore your first comment, you only have to look at this post of mine to know I have been watching what actually happened. http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12454526&postcount=1201
Time to repost my earlier video evidence I think:
So, what advantage is this that you speak of, because as far as I can see Hamilton entering the complex in front on the outside results in him behind again on the straight.
This is particularly strange, tell me why he wouldnt have been close when entering the complex he is more than close enough already?
Apart from the various extra feeds i get at work you mean? Hamilton was consistantly catching KR for the previous 5 laps, he was close enough to make a move when he did and KR forced him off [like he tried with massa]
He then gave the position back to KR and charlie whiting was happy with it
What part of that didnt you see?
He then gave the position back to KR and charlie whiting was happy with it
What part of that didnt you see?
watch the video? much better
he lost the corner he should have lifted
he decided he is above the rules and cut the chicane to set up a pass into turn 1 its not hard to understand for most people
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If Lewis had followed Kimi on the racing line through the chicane he'd have been in a better position coming out of it having the whole pit straight to slipstream and out brake him. But this is racing.....so what actually happened is Lewis was in front and was pushed wide by Kimi (like any half decent driver would), he cut the corner, travelled a shorter distance and gained a clear advantage. He then gave Kimi a car length advantage, something he didn't have going into the corner. In the video showing MS on PDLR, MS only gives back what he gained by cutting the corner nothing more - no penalty there.
What really grinds my gears is that for years we had engineering changes that have taken away the overtaking and turned whole seasons in a procession then when we do get a sniff of some real action the FiA have to jump in and remove it my committee
Soldato
He did lift FFS! He let Kimi passed again on the SF straight!
what extra feeds do you get? live timing, on board? easy to get them the onboard video is posted here watch it?
kr defended his position very fairly go watch lewis take massa and piquet in germany and see him push them off the track as well he got done and did not like it and broke the rules once again
as for your post above? your trolling
1) Where do you think those screen grabs came from? The video.
2) Hamilton didnt decide he is above the rules. The rules are that if you gain an advantage from cutting the corner (which in this case there were two options imposed by KR himself, cut the corner or hit me) you let your opponent back through. Hamilton did this, I dont see how you can dispute that?
So we have KR in front and he decides to protect his position by darting to the outside of the track and giving Hamilton the racing line inside. Thats good.
3rd option back off accept your move failed and go for it at the next chance
he decided to cut the track he could easily have made the corner but he did not want to lose the time it would have cost him
Right at this point I have to assume you have some sort of visual disability, because A) You havnt read the thread, myself and JUMPURS have been over this already and B) You asked me to watch the video and I have done so many times, so many times that I know this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCEYjNoBYo0
At 16.7 seconds you honestly tell me that doesnt look like a Merc trying to get back in behind the Ferrari? At the same time, at 17 seconds, tell me that gap on the left of Kimi is wide enough for Hamilton's car.
KR gave no room, Hamilton was committed to his position on the outside because of his speed into the complex and being infront of KR at that stage. So his options were hit Kimi or leave the track. The option of sticking on the outside, soon to be inside for the left hander is akin to option 1 of hit kimi because if he did those green bumps would have made for interesting turning.
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Which is what Hamilton did do, and got passed at La Source.TheStig1 said:
I could say the exact same thing about Raikonnen's move around Pouhon.TheStig1 said:
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He would have. Did you not notice he was right on Kimi's backside coming into the chicane. If he hadn't tried the move, had stayed on kimi and followed him through, he would have slipstreamed him down the full straight (rather than having to do a 1/3 of it not on full throttle) and beat Kimi into La Source anyway.
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