fail to see what that has to do with the belgian gp?
i dont post an opinion to be liked im not that needy
2008 Belgian GP - Race 13/18
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fail to see what that has to do with the belgian gp?
i dont post an opinion to be liked im not that needy
so you are saying if there was a wall on his left he would not have been able to lift?
course he could lift to suggest he cant is just in denial and its the whole basis of why he was punished
Man of Honour
Man the amount of Hamilton bum love in this thread is amazing.. He cut the corner instead of lifting off and gained an advantage. Had he took the corner, he wouldnt have been glued to Raikkonens gearbox before La Source. End of. /thread.
Man the amount of Hamilton bum love in this thread is amazing.. He cut the corner instead of lifting off and gained an advantage. Had he took the corner, he wouldnt have been glued to Raikkonens gearbox before La Source. End of. /thread.
And after cutting the corner, he gave the place back as required to do by the rules. 'End of.'
http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_4116843,00.html
Not sure if that's been posted before.
While it was subsequently confirmed that Hamilton was under investigation for cutting the chicane shortly before overtaking Raikkonen's Ferrari, the Finn's own driving came under heavy scrutiny after the race when it was noted that he overtook Hamilton later on the same lap despite yellow flags being waved to indicate that Nico Rosberg had slid off the track.
Not sure if that's been posted before.
While it was subsequently confirmed that Hamilton was under investigation for cutting the chicane shortly before overtaking Raikkonen's Ferrari, the Finn's own driving came under heavy scrutiny after the race when it was noted that he overtook Hamilton later on the same lap despite yellow flags being waved to indicate that Nico Rosberg had slid off the track.
No, if there was a wall there he would have crashed.
Which is exactly why there IS a run off area. Why on earth has the FIA put tarmac run off areas across and around all the corners if you can't use them?!
no he would have backed out of it and took the corner and dealt with the time he lost there is no run off area there he used a service road
Incidentaly - is everyone in the thread aware that it's not the "gaining advantage" that Hamilton has been pulled up for.
The actual, specific rule breach on the FIA's document state he was penalised for breaching:
So he's actually been penalised for leaving the track. Nothing else. These are the 2 rule breaches quoted by the FIA.
The actual, specific rule breach on the FIA's document state he was penalised for breaching:
The FIA said:
So he's actually been penalised for leaving the track. Nothing else. These are the 2 rule breaches quoted by the FIA.
I did point it out about 6 pages back... I appeared to be completely ignored.
It's purely going over the chicane that has caused this penalty.
I did, I took screenshots of it remember? You probably didnt look at them because they display Kimi not leaving enough space for a car to stay there.
Despite your belief that Hamilton has some magical brakes that allow an F1 car to stop immediately this just isnt possible. I showed you the video, I pointed out at 16.7 seconds he is trying to get back in behind the Ferrari, but what I can only assume is a disability is stopping you from seeing this.
If Hamilton had stayed in front there would be crying Italians throwing their toys out of their prams all over the world. He gave the position back, didnt slipstream and outbroke KR into the next corner, only possible due to KR's conservative braking and decision to move to the outside and cut back in.
Advantage?! ADVANTAGE?! When will you realise that letting someone back past you is not an advantage? You dont see Massa going round letting everyone overtake him and saying "LOOK AT ME IVE GOT THE ADVANTAGE".. letting your opponent cross the line faster and gain a full cars length infront is not an advantage considering both cars entered the complex side by side if not with Hamilton in front.
I would say this is your only redeeming factor, if the situation were the same. The fact of the matter is, Alonso uses the slipstream of Klien I believe, for a long time down a long straight. Hamilton slipstreams for how long? And overtakes on the 1st corner for what reason?
So he gave the place back, because he learnt in France to respect the rules and play by them or be penalised. Now it seems LH has to learn a new lesson. Never leave the track, even if you are going to cause an accident, because its better to hit KR than do the safe thing. Oh wait.. Or maybe the lesson is, dont try and win. Or maybe the lesson is if KR leaves the track and gains momentum into a turn and gets back in front while you have to go on the grass (which he should learn is probably an advantage and use the grass at all tracks) that nothing will happen to KR, so dont bother trying to overtake.
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Oh god... read the post and stated breached regulations!
HE WAS PENALISED FOR GOING OVER THE CHICANE NOT OVERTAKING!
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If its even possible this is only more ridiculous. With all of Max's safety spiel its now the fact that going over a run off area is worse than hitting another car..
Obvious solution is to dig up all the tarmac and put the gravel back in.
Thats a punishment for going off - you get stuck.
who said he needed to stop?
he needed to lift off and recover himself thats all
your just being silly to defend his crimes the rest of your post is just nonsense as you cant seem to accept lewis cutting the chicane kept him with kimi had he not cut the chicane he would not have been close to kimi
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if you can read
the rules you stated about leaving the track are under the overtaking section
leaving the track to overtake is the rule he has been punished for
Wrongly in my view as it was take avoiding action or crash and he took avoiding action, as many have done before and as many have not been penalised for before too. His only mistake was not letting the Kimi pull over/retake more obvious.
Soldato
"Cut the chicane and gained an advantage"
If they penalized just for going off the track then everyone would get penalties. It's a ridiculous call no matter how you look at it.
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