2011 Team mate Wars

yea i remember schumacher letting rosberg past multiple times last year but whatever keep hating if it brings some enjoyment to your life....

guess stint times dont matter either .....

schumacher scored points in 2 races this year rosberg only 1 , the numbers speak for themselfs enjoy your trolling lol

lol delusional fan boy alert.

Clearly Rosberg only had double the points because michael LET HIM

ROFLMAO.
 
schumacher scored points in 2 races this year rosberg only 1 , the numbers speak for themselfs enjoy your trolling lol

I'm pretty sure all the drivers would be happy with their team mate scoring in every single race even if they only scored in half the races if they still ended up with DOUBLE the points at the end of the season.

But hey as long as the stint times are good.
 
This is only stat based on not based and doesn't factor in on technical problems right? Just basically where you finish rather than how well the person raced?

EDIT: Is fastest lap also taken in to account.
 
This is only stat based on not based and doesn't factor in on technical problems right? Just basically where you finish rather than how well the person raced?

Yeah sure, if you both don't finish it just goes by your classified finishing position in relation to your team mate.

Of course you could have a scenario where say MS was on pole but crashed in the race but that would be reflected in the QFY stat.

People will argue the merits of team mates all year long, I just thought it was fun to keep it all in one place.:)
 
It's always going to be a slightly flawed statistic, with today being a good example - Vettel placed higher but Webber raced from 18th and finished just 2 seconds behind his pole sitting team mate, so from a subjective viewpoint I would say Webber certainly outraced Vettel today, but objectively Vettel placed higher.

It's something you can never really measure with stats.
 
I can just see the interview now after the end of last season

Interviewer "So then mark, how gutted do you feel to have come 3rd and lost the championship to your team mate Sebastian"

Mark "i'm not gutted at all. I'm ecstatic"

Interviewer: "How So Mark ?"

Mark: "well i scored points in every race this year apart from 2. Sebastian scored points in every race this year apart from 4. That means i'm twice as good him really.

Interview: "so you feel the F1 championship doesnt matter as long as you get some points"

mark: "oh absolutely"

Because thats totally what happens in F1 isn't it ? :rolleyes:
 
It's always going to be a slightly flawed statistic, with today being a good example - Vettel placed higher but Webber raced from 18th and finished just 2 seconds behind his pole sitting team mate, so from a subjective viewpoint I would say Webber certainly outraced Vettel today, but objectively Vettel placed higher.

It's something you can never really measure with stats.

This is basically what I was trying to say.
 
lol trolls...

i was trying to argue that schumacher is still fast enough then decided to troll you back.

maybe look at the ******* stint times for the race
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Documents/chn-race-analysis.pdf
schumacher omnly managed to get all the slower cars out of the way and have one last fairly clear air stint maybe compare it to some of the driver who finished above him.

a bad qualy session spoiled his race but in the actual race he had more than enough speed to be good enough for the grid.

some of you people are just senseless trolls who even resort to last years races big news for you THIS IS THE 2011 THREAD....
 
lol trolls...

i was trying to argue that schumacher is still fast enough then decided to troll you back.

maybe look at the ******* stint times for the race
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Documents/chn-race-analysis.pdf
schumacher omnly managed to get all the slower cars out of the way and have one last fairly clear air stint maybe compare it to some of the driver who finished above him.

a bad qualy session spoiled his race but in the actual race he had more than enough speed to be good enough for the grid.

some of you people are just senseless trolls who even resort to last years races big news for you THIS IS THE 2011 THREAD....

Dry your eyes now, just because we're not all desperate to take a teabagging from Schumacher doesn't make everyone a troll.
 
Dry your eyes now, just because we're not all desperate to take a teabagging from Schumacher doesn't make everyone a troll.

time for alonso to quit to the retirement home along with schumacher based on china then
Rosberg's average lap time: 1:44.052
Schumacher's average lap time: 1:44.320

Massa's average lap time: 1:44.083
Alonso's average lap time: 1:44.341

if you dont get how average laptime is calculated i will clue you in
the FIA list lap 1 as racestarttime+formation+lap1 together
which is why peoples start laps on the fia site are ridiculous like
15:05.18 etc
people discount lap1 for this reason , schumachers first lap was 2 seconds slower than alonso but he only finished half a second behind alonso this is why schumachers average lap time can be quicker than alonso even if he finished just behind him in the race.

schumacher nolonger has the pace to be on the grid by merit based on this race, same goes for alonso to then

seems like a fair comparison to me :)
 
Fair but ultimately pointless, taking things like average lap time from a single race doesn't tell you anything of use, bare perhaps massaging your raging lob on for Michael.
 
time for alonso to quit to the retirement home along with schumacher based on china then


Are you 6?

So because everyone disagrees with you they are a troll?

Whose basing this discussion just on china?
The FACT remains Alonso destroyed his team mate last year despite a patchy start to the year, the FACT remains he's ahead of massa in the standings now despite a patchy start.

The fact remains Schumacher got humiliated last year and is well on the way to being humiliated again.

No one is basing this on just china except you. Every one has inconsistent moments against their team mate, Alonso, Hamilton have had blips. Schumachers results against his team mate is more than a blip.
 
Are you 6?

So because everyone disagrees with you they are a troll?

Whose basing this discussion just on china?
The FACT remains Alonso destroyed his team mate last year despite a patchy start to the year, the FACT remains he's ahead of massa in the standings now despite a patchy start.

The fact remains Schumacher got humiliated last year and is well on the way to being humiliated again.

No one is basing this on just china except you. Every one has inconsistent moments against their team mate, Alonso, Hamilton have had blips. Schumachers results against his team mate is more than a blip.

may i remind you that this thread you created is titled "2011" last year or any year prior is irelevant.

the fact is schumacher more than deserved his place on the grid today by merit alone you can disagree until your blue in the face the facts are he is still fast enough and he has proven it thank you for your time
Schumachers results against his team mate is more than a blip.
i fully agree with you on that statement, this race was just a "blip" because of the airstream failing to reattach instantly like it should to the DRS system.

i hear they are bringing a revised rear wing for turkey
 
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may i remind you that this thread you created is titled "2011" last year or any year prior is irelevant.

the fact is schumacher more than deserved his place on the grid today by merit alone you can disagree until your blue in the face the facts are he is still fast enough and he has proven it thank you for your time

I was just proving how idiotic your statement was that they should get rid of Alonso based on China. Regardless you still lose because Alonso still has more points than Massa and out qualified him every time, which suggests to me he's faster.

Where as MS has been beaten 3-0 in qfy while failing to even get in Q3, somewhere his team mate has not failed to get yet.

So clearly he is not there on merit and with what Rosberg is able to do with the car is wasting a seat.

The facts are in 2011, Alonso has more points, Alonso has out qualified his team mate 3-0.

Rosberg has more points and has humiliated his team mate in qualifying.

Dispute that.

Never mind I'm pretty sure MS will actually make Q3 in the next race.
 
Another stunning weekend for MS then !

Out qualified by a good 6 places by his team mate, and out finished by 7 places and out of the points.

Wonder how long mercedes will bank roll a driver thats failing to meet the standard required of him just because of his previous history ?
 
I totally agree, his time is up. If it was anyone else they would be fired. They cannot give him a third year so they might as well make up an injury story and move him out. Give a young driver a chance as MS has already written off this year for a title challenge. Give a new driver a run to get familiar with the car and team.
 
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