Poll: 2014 F1 engines

What does everyone think of the new engine sounds?

  • Like them!

    Votes: 124 36.2%

  • Hate them!

    Votes: 103 30.0%

  • Neutral!

    Votes: 116 33.8%
  • Total voters
    343
Jono8 said:
You seem to be under the impression that you cant tell the difference in sound by just watching it on the TV...are you deaf?
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No I'm not?

I'm saying the loss of the wonderful ear splitting spine tingling body shaking "can't hear anything other than the engines" noise isn't noticeable because it was never there on the TV coverage to start with.

The TV coverage is just different. The elements of the old engines that have been lost are the elements that were only there for those track side.

It's the difference between the engines sounding different and 'feeling' different.
 
How can you say that?

Of course it was noticeable on the TV coverage. At the start of each race I used to ritually crank up the volume so my AV system blasted that wonderful noise right throughout the house. Can't see me doing that now.

Commentary is not non-stop and even when it is you can still hear the cars. Not as much as trackside but to say the TV audience won't notice much difference is just plain wrong. Unless you are deaf, of course.
 
Redbull and Toro Rosso team owner Dietrich Mateschitz criticises new F1 rules including the sound produced by the turbo hybrid engines.

Dietrich Mateschitz said:
"You have to make F1 like it used to be - the top discipline of motorsports. F1 is not there to set new records in fuel consumption, nor to make it possible to have a whispered conversation during a race. It is absurd to race a lap seconds slower than last year. GP2 partially provides more racing and fighting and almost equal lap times as F1 with a small fraction of the budget."
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Source - http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula-one/26721387

That pretty much confirms everything myself and others have been saying.
 
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Ferrari are also concerned enough about this year's rule changes to ask their fans this simple question - "Do you like this new Formula 1?".

http://formula1.ferrari.com/ferrarifansurvey

It's seems that so far 61% do not.

I should point out that Ferrari ask for their fans opinions quite often and the result is usually positive. Not this time.
 
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Skeeter said:
So what should they do?

Go back to the NA V8s and throw all the money invested in the new enginees in the bin?
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New technology is important, but not at the expense of the spirit and appeal of F1.

They should incorporate new technology into real engines with at least 8 cylinders. That would be a start. Evolution not revolution.
 
Would a turbo V8 really sound much different to the V6?

And suggesting they should develop a new engine formula after one race using the current engines they have just spent millions developing isn't really a viable option, is it? :p
 
Why the obsession with turbos? The only real advantage of a turbo is efficiency and bottom end torque. This is Formula 1 after all, which has been my point all along.

I didn't ask them to spend millions developing new engines. I am simply answering your question about what should be done.
 
Skeeter said:
Its not my obsession with turbos, its the global car industries.

So your solution is to go back to the NA V8s or V10s and bolt on a KERS?
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The global car industry supplies mass-market vehicles to consumers who demand economy.

Formula 1 is the pinnacle of high performance motor racing featuring the quickest racing cars in the world.

They are not the same.

I am not a Formula 1 engineer, but the focus should be on performance, mindful of the racing series they are developing for. Mateschitz makes several good points - "F1 is not there to set new records in fuel consumption, nor to make it possible to have a whispered conversation during a race. It is absurd to race a lap seconds slower than last year. GP2 partially provides more racing and fighting and almost equal lap times as F1 with a small fraction of the budget."
 
A lot of the lack of volume is from the directional exhausts, something mentioned in the first test at Jerez. I went back and listened to the start at Melbourne last night, and it was near silence from the camera pointing back towards the grid.

Maybe we need the Lotus side-exhausts again? :p

While I don't like the lack of volume (I do still adore the sounds themselves), I'm happy to cope as it's fun watching the drivers really having to hustle the things after so long with cars looking as though they were on rails.



Spie said:
Efficiency is not performance. It has an influence on it, but they are not the same thing.
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Torque is though. That was the complaint with the 2.4L V8s - they had sod all grunt.

Obviously the amount of torque they've got at the moment is an awful lot and probably not ideal, but I do remember Brundle once saying "you would never say 'no' to more power".
 
this_is_gav said:
While I don't like the lack of volume (I do still adore the sounds themselves), I'm happy to cope as it's fun watching the drivers really having to hustle the things after so long with cars looking as though they were on rails.





Torque is though. That was the complaint with the 2.4L V8s - they had sod all grunt.

Obviously the amount of torque they've got at the moment is an awful lot and probably not ideal, but I do remember Brundle once saying "you would never say 'no' to more power".
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Wouldn't be so bad if they were hustling the cars with faster lap times but these cars are slower.

Seeing it now it looks like hustling cars on thinner tyres to make it look better. So some people think it looks faster. It's like the McLaren of 2009. Twitchy slow car with no rear stability. Can't get on the power quick enough while the rest if the grid leaves you. Only difference is everyone is on the same pace.
 
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V F said:
Wouldn't be so bad if they were hustling the cars with faster lap times but these cars are slower.
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They've cut the downforce again, plus all the systems are new. They were never going to be on the pace of last years cars after one race weekend and a few days testing.

In a years time you may have a valid point.
 
Spie said:
How can you say that?

Of course it was noticeable on the TV coverage. At the start of each race I used to ritually crank up the volume so my AV system blasted that wonderful noise right throughout the house. Can't see me doing that now.

Commentary is not non-stop and even when it is you can still hear the cars. Not as much as trackside but to say the TV audience won't notice much difference is just plain wrong. Unless you are deaf, of course.
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I'm a hard of hearing person and the new engines sound like someone have loads of big farts.

I wear headphones and it's still crap. I've even tried putting the sound through my THX system but still the same :(
The atmosphere is not there anymore and it's a bit like going to the movies, rustle your bag of crisps and get looked at
because no one can hear the film :(
 
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