2016 : A Pivotal Year For AMD, Nvidia, PC Gaming And VR
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Do they take the money on release ?
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Most of the people I know tend to be gamers and a few programmers/devs (including one or two who are actually involved in game dev who bought the dev kits) and most have tried out the OR dev kits but most have looked at the price for the retail and thought its not worth it. Thats like a dozen people I know.
Like as mentioned before the dev kits were nearly half the price,so in the end I have the impression that outside a niche of people,most are going to wait until the later headsets are out at a much lower price point.
The issue is that if they don't get the numbers,VR is still going to be a poorly supported niche.
So basically the console people get to use VR as a fraction of the cost of PC owners,which is funny since the PS4 VR system needs another external GPU in addition to the headset which makes it more complicated and probably more expensive to manufacture.
So that makes the PS4 VR system with an external GPU, $450.
Emm,and yet the PC equivalent is more expensive.
I think all the "we are selling at cost" is all porkies personally.
I hope the console VR headset does not become that popular - otherwise all the major VR titles will be developed with consoles in mind. Sigh.
I agree and "I think WTF!" is the reaction I got from most.
Anyway,I think I will leave it at that.
Like as mentioned before the dev kits were nearly half the price,so in the end I have the impression that outside a niche of people,most are going to wait until the later headsets are out at a much lower price point.
The issue is that if they don't get the numbers,VR is still going to be a poorly supported niche.
So basically the console people get to use VR as a fraction of the cost of PC owners,which is funny since the PS4 VR system needs another external GPU in addition to the headset which makes it more complicated and probably more expensive to manufacture.
So that makes the PS4 VR system with an external GPU, $450.
Emm,and yet the PC equivalent is more expensive.
I think all the "we are selling at cost" is all porkies personally.
I hope the console VR headset does not become that popular - otherwise all the major VR titles will be developed with consoles in mind. Sigh.
I agree and "I think WTF!" is the reaction I got from most.
Anyway,I think I will leave it at that.
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I think Gregsters post said the money is taken when it ships. I may be wrong though.
Never said there was a difference (there is; apart from the lenses) from that but they were losing on every sale of the dev kit.
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Those slightly higher resolution screens are custom made for the Oculus so that will be costly. The cost of the lenses are stupidly high as there isn't an off the shelf product for them.
The whole framework of the headset is different too with different materials. From what is understood then almost nothing can be taken from the dev kit and used again anyways.
The only part that put sour grapes into the price is that they mentioned it being at $350 prior to all this.
The Vive is meant to be more expensive than the Oculus too, assuming they decide that they will release at cost then I wouldn't imagine any change out of £600 for it.
5th January Oculus Founder Says Rift Pre-Orders Won't Sell Out
6th January Oculus Rift Pre-Orders Sold Out in 14 Minutes
Seems to be selling quite well to me.
If they can only make X amount and they can sell them in 14 mins I'm pretty sure someone somewhere is saying why didn't we set the price higher.
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It isn't expensive to me and I was predicting £400 but happy to pay up to £600. After using the DK2, I was sold straight off. People pay well over £300 for steering wheels and pedals, it just needs to be put in perspective for your own viability.
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Just to add - I had been saving up for this, so the cost wasn't such a blow.
I'll probably order after hearing about you gushing over the CV1. Although I do want SteamVR and as the Vive is the only SteamVR headset in existence at the moment I'll save my pennies for that I think.
I say without a doubt they aren't selling at cost or even being sub by Facebook; they've come back and said so.
Now we've had a couple reports saying they were selling dev kits at a lost; but again officially they've never said that.
They are making a profit on this kit as once it gets broken down most likely it will cost 300-350 to make and that includes the headphones; games and xbox one controller.
Is it worth 500; well some think so; enough to sell out; but its the Devs they have to get on board also and people I know in the game; said the same as Cat; nope not at that price. When it comes down yep we'll get it.
The real winner.......PS4 VR - half the price entrance fee; along with console peasants are used to spending more on their stuff at the beginning compared to PC gamers....
Along with the fact they've already figured far larger audience for PS4 as of now there 36 million ps4 out there in people's hands. Nvidia's figure for their GPUs is 13 million......double the amount along with a cheaper price....
People will say it will get cheaper and it will but; this will slow the growth and pick up of VR at least in PC gaming for the time being.
Now we've had a couple reports saying they were selling dev kits at a lost; but again officially they've never said that.
They are making a profit on this kit as once it gets broken down most likely it will cost 300-350 to make and that includes the headphones; games and xbox one controller.
Is it worth 500; well some think so; enough to sell out; but its the Devs they have to get on board also and people I know in the game; said the same as Cat; nope not at that price. When it comes down yep we'll get it.
The real winner.......PS4 VR - half the price entrance fee; along with console peasants are used to spending more on their stuff at the beginning compared to PC gamers....
Along with the fact they've already figured far larger audience for PS4 as of now there 36 million ps4 out there in people's hands. Nvidia's figure for their GPUs is 13 million......double the amount along with a cheaper price....
People will say it will get cheaper and it will but; this will slow the growth and pick up of VR at least in PC gaming for the time being.
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Personally if i have the choice of buying a VR headset or upgrade my GPU, i'd rather go with a new high end GPU instead when they come out.. I mean these headsets are as expensive as a high end card, no chance would i buy one just for a different experience when i could get better frame rates instead.
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You mean like when AMD said the Fury X was selling well??
Oi!! The Fury X at *least* sold in the hundreds globally*
*without the many purchases of AMDMatt and Kaap
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thats just marketing, these pre-orders are just here to give them an idea about the market, i doubt they had over 50k pre-order.
ordering part from fabs + shipping + assembly and testing should be around 3 months, the time for them to start shiping the delay on the shipping is due to assembly and testing that takes a bit longer, so ppl get them in april and late.
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