2022 mini-budget discussion

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Besty said:
I would point out that the two Conservative manifestos that were voted on by the country, there was plenty in there about keeping taxes low. The two Labour manifestos that pledged the reverse, both lost. The general public don't generally vote for higher taxes but you would not think that, reading social media, but it has proven true.

In the 2017 manifesto, it says that corp. tax would be 17%, in the 2019 manifesto it pledged to freeze the big taxes.

What Sunak was doing (forced by Johnson) was to not only ignore this but go in the other direction entirely, I doubt taxes would have been worse under a Corbyn/McDonnell led government.

We will find out over the next 4 days, what the other plans are, as the conference starts but I don't see what is happening as a big departure from the 2017/2019 manifesto pledges, Truss is doing what she said she would do and what the membership want her to do.
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How do you think the public will feel now when they hear about the upcoming austerity and slaughter of public services that's just been announced by the laughingly called 'levelling up secretary'?
 
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arknor said:
are they going to gate their rolex watches etc


I think we are heading towards a future where people are isolated from the world anyway, young people already seem terrified of strangers
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Trickle down economics baby, they can pay some poor people to menacing and protect them from the other poor people.
 
n111ck said:
Chancellor subjected to further leftie racism..

www.bbc.co.uk

That isn't me, Kwarteng tells Mirror over wrong image

The Mirror newspaper apologises after mistaking another man for the chancellor in an online story.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Why the hell would putting a wrong photo be considered racist? I had a someone else's photo placed in an article about me, but I never considered the mistake an attempt at racism.
 
Moley said:
It's almost like someone thinks 'they all look the same'.....
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I can't imagine The Mirror employs a photographic editor with such views, although to a westerner's eye, one not used to seeing a lot of different African originated faces, they can be hard to distinguish, and I am sure the converse applies.

I can tell my dogs apart, you probably couldn't. I see them every day, but to a none "doggie" person, or even a doggie person that sees them infrequently, they'd be very hard to tell apart.

The same applies with many species and and objects we are not familiar with. Can you pull out individual giraffes in a herd? Spot a particular cow in a herd of 200? The zoo keeper can, the farmer can. Spot a fake diamond in a bag of 45 of them?

Not being familiar with a particular race and failing to ID an individual correctly from that race is only racist to those seeking to overuse the word.
 
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Besty said:
Truss is doing what she said she would do and what the membership want her to do.
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True but thanks to Boris very few people actually believed she would go through with it, they thought it was just rhetoric designed to appeal to Conservative party members.
 
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Kirkyl85 said:
I can't conjure the words the accurately convey how much I despise the Tories and their enablers.

This country has really been ruined in the last 12 years under a Con government and crap-shows like Brexit have only made things so much worse. I don't have any hope in Labour either but I'd rather have them in instead of the Tories anyday but yeah, this is super depressing. I'm going to switch off from current events for the sake of mental health.

Me and my partner are already seriously talking about immigrating when we hit our 40's. I just don't want to live here anymore.
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Same.
We've been talking. Wish we were still in the EU so would make things easier. I've put it off and put it off and it's come home to bite.

I'm ashamed of everything this new tory lot stand for.

Helping the rich
Removing workers rights
Rescinding environmental protection

And worst thing is I can't shake the thoughts this is all for personal gain. I doubt we will ever know. But it really sticks of corruption.

I'm genuinely disgusted.


Kind of hope the polls continue to slide for the tories and truss has a mental breakdown. Or they get dragged out of downing Street by a mob of people who've lost everything.
 
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Murphy said:
True but thanks to Boris very few people actually believed she would go through with it, they thought it was just rhetoric designed to appeal to Conservative party members.
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They have perhaps misjudged her veracity then, maybe she read of people here calling Johnson a liar and vowed to make the party immune from that charge under her watch :)
 
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Nah, i think they just misjudge how stupid she is.

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The only issue on which Truss is seen as better equipped to handle is “restoring trust in politics”, although even here she secures the backing of just 16% of Britons to Johnson’s paltry 7%.
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She may be doing exactly what that tiny % of voters that got to decide wanted.

Hard to know exactly what that is seeing as the voters didn't have to be British citizens nor even live in the UK.
 
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If you want to ruin your weekend then check the value of your pension pots for a month ago and compare it to today.

Makes very very ugly reading. Over a year's worth of contribution just '....and its gone' like in South Park.
 
Loagi said:
If you want to ruin your weekend then check the value of your pension pots for a month ago and compare it to today.

Makes very very ugly reading. Over a year's worth of contribution just '....and its gone' like in South Park.
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Mine doesn’t show 1 month change but 6 month change shows a 6% fall. (Ignoring contributions in that time so it’s just market performance). I would expect things to be a bit lower through the winter.
 
Loagi said:
If you want to ruin your weekend then check the value of your pension pots for a month ago and compare it to today.

Makes very very ugly reading. Over a year's worth of contribution just '....and its gone' like in South Park.
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They are constantly up and down my is down Vs 1 month but up Vs the year. Unless your retiring in the next few months don't worry about it
 
Dirk Diggler said:
I vote SNP but I didn't vote for independence and I'm not convinced I would vote for it if we have another referendum. My preference is more devolution; I want an independent government and we don't need an independent country to achieve that. We have a level of independent government now, and it's healthy to see Nicola Sturgeon contrast the UK government with alternative policies.

I mean, contrast Surgeons latest comment about why she won't mirror the tax policies of the conservatives, against the utterly moronic comments from Truss about Sturgeon being an attention seeker. She's absolute miles ahead of Truss and she was miles ahead of Johnson, too.

I'd love to see a Labour/SNP coalition in Westminster as it would accurately reflect the Union, but tragically Labour are more aligned with the Tories and the brutal truth is that they have to be because that's what the English electorate wants.
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What is the mood up there about independence so far compared to 2014? Truss is a low rate substitute teacher with the brain compacity of a broken lightbulb compared to most. :P

Yeah my friend in Scotland said the exact same as you said about Labour being more aligned with the Tories. If Scotland gains independence, maybe you can take all of England from Birmingham upwards and if anyone from the south wants to run away from the Westminster cesspit, take em', more than merrier. :D
 
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