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Typical and pathetic, just because I've told you something you didn't want to hear you call me a troll, that was my experience whether you like it or not. It's reactions like that, that make me not take bleeding heart liberals seriously, you're fake and unable to accept the truth when it slaps you in the face.

I decided to take a different path, there were a handful of others like me at the same school that rejected 'working class' culture, put up with the bullying and went on to further education and better jobs. I bet good, hard earn cash, that people like them who bullied us for being bookworms, swots, "know-it-alls" who were spat at, beaten, and called names. Are the same ***** who are moaning here, on Twitter, and on other forums about the "rich" and jealous of anyone who earns middle-income or more.
So let’s just say you are being honest and serious, in which case you are basically saying that the poor are poor because they choose to be which is a frankly appalling statement.

Good luck in life you’ll need it if you are going to carry that chip on your shoulder for ever.

PS extrapolating your experience and applying it to all is a terrible way of assessing society.
 
I'm not convinced people actually understand this change - ie this was one of Gordon Brown's well-intentioned, but silly decisions in capping bonuses in Financial services. All this meant is salaries went up.

Personally I'd prefer people get bonuses for good performance rather than a guaranteed salary regardless of what they do....
The trouble is the huge bonuses linked to performance encourage risk taking as suddenly there is something personal in it for the trader if the risk comes off. The timing of it really stinks as well, if the country was booming and everyone was doing well then fair enough but really this just looks like another reward for the well off and a slap in the face for the rest. Of all the things announced today it is the least ridiculous but that’s like saying that of all the ways to die drowning is the best…
 
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It makes the UK a very attractive place for the USA to invest and operate in.
It does, the USA has also said the areas it wants = healthcare and related insurance, farming (GM) and imported food supply. For the last, look at the great recession of british farming as what will happen ( from history).
 
So let’s just say you are being honest and serious, in which case you are basically saying that the poor are poor because they choose to be which is a frankly appalling statement.

Good luck in life you’ll need it if you are going to carry that chip on your shoulder for ever.

PS extrapolating your experience and applying it to all is a terrible way of assessing society.
We have been further and further divided as a society. Never more so than today it seems.

Far more than in other western European countries, if you are born poor in Britain, in a poor area, the chances are that you will remain poor for the rest of your life. If you are born rich, in a rich area, the likelihood is that you will find a way – or will have ways come to you – to stay wealthy and privileged throughout your life, and your children will do the same. Advantage is hoarded by the privileged sticking close to those who are similarly privileged. There is a subtle collusion shared by both left and right to maintain the solidity of this structure, while continuing to deny it.
Research on economic inequality and its social ramifications has shown that those near the top of the earnings scale consistently underestimate how well-off they are in comparison to others. In 2009, the TUC created a “Middlebritainometer”, allowing wage-earners to input their income and find out where theirs lay in relation to the average. It showed that richer people believed themselves to be far closer to the average than they really were. Those earning £35,000 a year, which in 2009 put them in the top 20% of UK earners, placed themselves an average of 26 percentage points lower than their actual position. This is how privilege becomes truly concentrated – through the systematic denial of the way economic, social and cultural capital works, by the very people who are hogging it. Such blanket denial serves to convince members of the middle class that, generation after generation, they have to tighten their grip on the advantages they have, because they are always at risk of losing them.
 
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I have to say this sounds like some sort of fantasy world you made up to say you came from. When in reality it was more because you couldnt make friends.
Sorry, anyone who laughs at my experience of bullying is nothing short of a **Less of that please***

Horrible person
 
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Who built the house he lives in, plastered his walls, repairs his boiler and fixes his cars. The backbone of this country and all society’s is the working classes. Sorry but it’s true.
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Who should tell him those people probably earn more than he does?
 
It makes the UK a very attractive place for the USA to invest and operate in.

Buying stuff doesn't equal investing. Also they still need to convert anything back to $ unless they are happy keeping £.
 
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So let’s just say you are being honest and serious, in which case you are basically saying that the poor are poor because they choose to be which is a frankly appalling statement.

Good luck in life you’ll need it if you are going to carry that chip on your shoulder for ever.

PS extrapolating your experience and applying it to all is a terrible way of assessing society.

I made it perfectly clear from the beginning that my post was anecdotal, but i have to say from everything i have seen in life that a vast majority of people that complain about not having better lives have made ****-poor decisions throughout it. Yes of course, some people's circumstances are beyond their ability to climb out of their situation.

But growing up as a second-gen immigrant in a council flat. I went to the same school, with the same teachers, with the same books and sat in the same lessons as they did, and hence the same opportunities. Most just mucked around and when asked what they were going to do after school they just shrugged their shoulders. And don't give me that ******** about 'broken homes', most didn't. So excuse me for having little sympathy for those, frankly ********, who rather than leave me alone, decided to make my life a living hell at school because they get ****** off for doing well.

I've checked up on most of those people a couple of decades late out of curiosity, a handful got lucky and took apprenticeships and have done well for themselves. But a vast majority just wasted their lives on benefits, pumping out the next generation of lazy stupid scrotes and moaning about when they're getting their next fix or their cheating partners
 
I made it perfectly clear from the beginning that my post was anecdotal, but i have to say from everything i have seen in life that a vast majority of people that complain about not having better lives have made ****-poor decisions throughout it. Yes of course, some people's circumstances are beyond their ability to climb out of their situation.

But growing up as a second-gen immigrant in a council flat. I went to the same school, with the same teachers, with the same books and sat in the same lessons as they did, and hence the same opportunities. Most just mucked around and when asked what they were going to do after school they just shrugged their shoulders. And don't give me that ******** about 'broken homes', most didn't. So excuse me for having little sympathy for those, frankly ********, who rather than leave me alone, decided to make my life a living hell at school because they get ****** off for doing well.

I've checked up on most of those people a couple of decades late out of curiosity, a handful got lucky and took apprenticeships and have done well for themselves. But a vast majority just wasted their lives on benefits, pumping out the next generation of lazy stupid scrotes and moaning about when they're getting their next fix or their cheating partners
You say it was anecdotal and then in the very same line go into another sweeping generalisation before disappearing into a rant about what sounds like a horrible experience growing up.

Serious question have you considered talking to someone? Holding all that anger and resentment for this long isn't healthy you'd be a better happier person if you found a way to let it go and move on.
 
like r4 postulated if the euro reaches parity with the dollar they'd need a confidence vote in the Truss government.
She and he bessy mate have blocked the OBR report so the electorate can't see in black and white the terminal prognosis.
 
So bitter considering you have done ok for yourself? What made you hate everyone.....

I generally don't think about it and i started to enjoy life once i got to uni (being around like-minded people was amazing). But this thread seems to have dragged up memories.
 
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