2080ti cards failing ?

Gregster · 8 Nov 2018 at 12:31

Panos said:
A visit in the official forums is an eye opener, why you don't go there mate?

You are seriously unrelenting. Why are you so concerned with failures and seem to lap it up when people have issues, to the point of trawling the NVidia forums and boasting about it here. I have seen you in the Vega thread giving good advice to people but you are really making yourself look silly here and a real nasty piece of work with the laughing at people getting issues. I bow my head reading your comments.

Gregster · 8 Nov 2018 at 12:34

layte said:
I have had my 2080ti FE for over a month now, no issues so far (yay for a sample size of 1).

Interesting to see such 'genuine concerns' about these cards from non owners who have been quite vocal about not wanting to buy into these cards even before this issue became known. It would be nice to have a thread that could be a source of useful information without all the pointless noise from those who are only interested in petty point scoring.

Fair enough anyone who has paid over a grand for a poor space invader clone, no issue at all with anyone in that situation making all the noise in the world.

Pretty much the same as that and no crashes/BSODs or anything to note of worry. I genuinely lose faith in humanity when I see people like Panos in here with his snide comments at those with issues.

Kaapstad · 8 Nov 2018 at 12:52

Gregster said:
Pretty much the same as that and no crashes/BSODs or anything to note of worry. I genuinely lose faith in humanity when I see people like Panos in here with his snide comments at those with issues.

I started a thread where people with problem cards could list the faults and I would keep a summary In the OP , there was just one faulty card.

I think the thread was actually quite useful as it showed the problems are not widespread.

Gregster · 8 Nov 2018 at 12:57

Kaapstad said:
I started a thread where people with problem cards could list the faults and I would keep a summary In the OP , there was just one faulty card.

I think the thread was actually quite useful as it showed the problems are not widespread.

Yer, I saw that thread and thought it a good choice and could well be helpful.

Sadly this threads top posters are Gerard, Panos, Easyrider and Nasher. None of them have any desire to get a 2080Ti and seem to thrive on cards failing

Panos · 8 Nov 2018 at 13:21

Gregster said:
You are seriously unrelenting. Why are you so concerned with failures and seem to lap it up when people have issues, to the point of trawling the NVidia forums and boasting about it here. I have seen you in the Vega thread giving good advice to people but you are really making yourself look silly here and a real nasty piece of work with the laughing at people getting issues. I bow my head reading your comments.

I keep giving good advice on Nvidia discussions also

However the guy was dismissive of the issue doesn't exist and all is hate talk.
Had a dozen Nvidia cards and this is the first time I remember the last 12 years that there is so much bruhaha about issues.

Always were faulty one offs, but here seems there is a trend with the FE PCB.

LoadsaMoney · 8 Nov 2018 at 13:22

fornowagain said:
First two modes, GN talking driver fix.

LMFAO!

Gregster · 8 Nov 2018 at 13:28

Panos said:
I keep giving good advice on Nvidia discussions also
However the guy was dismissive of the issue doesn't exist and all is hate talk.
Had a dozen Nvidia cards and this is the first time I remember the last 12 years that there is so much bruhaha about issues.

Always were faulty one offs, but here seems there is a trend with the FE PCB.

What good advice? Never seen it and here you are posting up about **** taking. I find that disgusting and really surprised in truth. Sure I lean towards NVidia and love some banter but I never laugh at people's misfortunes and sadly, that is what you are doing.

The issue does exist and I hope the driver that is due this week sorts out the majority of issues people are seeing.

melmac · 8 Nov 2018 at 13:50

Kaapstad said:
I started a thread where people with problem cards could list the faults and I would keep a summary In the OP , there was just one faulty card.

I think the thread was actually quite useful as it showed the problems are not widespread.

Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but, only one person posted in your thread. There are 7/8 people in this thread who have returned their 2080TI's. Journey got 18 and 3 failed. So if you add the number of cards in the owners thread, the number of people in this thread who have returned cards but aren't in the owner's thread and Journey's cards, you get a 60 2080TI's. 10/11 have failed.

Your thread gives us a false picture as it looks like only 1 person has a problem. So, I don't know how widespread the issues are, but, the only time that I have seen so many returns by forums members for so few cards sold was with the 290 cards from AMD.

anxious_f0x · 8 Nov 2018 at 13:53

Panos said:
I keep giving good advice on Nvidia discussions also
However the guy was dismissive of the issue doesn't exist and all is hate talk.
Had a dozen Nvidia cards and this is the first time I remember the last 12 years that there is so much bruhaha about issues.

Always were faulty one offs, but here seems there is a trend with the FE PCB.

Not once did I say there wasn't a problem, my point is the problem is being blown out of proportion because people are unhappy with the performance/price.

Anyone remember that perfect Fury X launch where many of them had dead/dying pumps in the AIO?

That was a huge problem and even that wasn't blown up as much as this.

Kaapstad · 8 Nov 2018 at 14:00

melmac said:
Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but, only one person posted in your thread. There are 7/8 people in this thread who have returned their 2080TI's. Journey got 18 and 3 failed. So if you add the number of cards in the owners thread, the number of people in this thread who have returned cards but aren't in the owner's thread and Journey's cards, you get a 60 2080TI's. 10/11 have failed.

Your thread gives us a false picture as it looks like only 1 person has a problem. So, I don't know how widespread the issues are, but, the only time that I have seen so many returns by forums members for so few cards sold was with the 290 cards from AMD.

Well get them to post in the thread I started so we can keep score and get an idea how big the problem is.

It is totally pointless having a thread like this where everything is subjective and where some people are looking for any excuse to stir the pot rather than looking at things in a logical and reasonable way.

If there is a problem lets find out what and how big it is.

melmac · 8 Nov 2018 at 14:06

Smffy said:
Sorry wasnt clear - not their reporting but forum reporting in general, I thought they were the first vid up on this but I might be wrong when there were a few fails and suddenly it was the end of the world. If you think of it like this a section of self reported forum users, if you took the amount of trolling on this and other forums in to account I'd be surprised you trusted the numbers good or bad - its not exactly science is my point. Small collection of self reports from a public forum and especially not an accurate measure given you are more likely to sign up if you have a faulty product, that is all.

As above, dont take so much offence - you link to a document which has no verified purchase and many people are in it 2-3 times if not more which is very reliable data... Re: 'Caseking guy' yes I do trust him, first and foremost he's his own man and pretty well respected - if you are calling him caseking guy you clearly don't know who he is or you'd call him by his other name.

Sorry man, but, I know who De8auer is. I didn't use his name to highlight the fact that he is a Caseking Guy. He works for Caseking, He not only works at Caseking, he is a product marketer at Caseking. He isn't going to say anything in his videos that will affect the sales of their products negatively. And if you believe otherwise you are been naïve.

The document I linked to, isn't a random document. It was made by a forum member on the Nvidia forums in a thread asking for people with issues. The guy just gathered all the data in the thread into an easy to read excel document. If you read the thread you would know why there are some people in twice and three times. Some of those people bought 2 cards, some had to RMA the replacement card too.

Journey · 8 Nov 2018 at 14:06

I honestly don't think that there is much of an issue as people think, it is a new product to market on a new PCB design that has not been sold in large quantities. Yes there may be higher than usual failure rates compared to what you are used to seeing but it is far from abnormal for this sort of event to happen with a product this complex, which has 1st party and 3rd party hardware vendors, and software integration to consider. I doubt that this issue will exist beyond the first couple of batches of product, and as I have said previously a company the size of Nvidia will simply fix the issue and sweep it under the carpet like it didn't happen.

I am not excusing them, just trying to give people some insight that these things happen all the time, but as it's a consumer focused graphics card it is getting more scrutiny than say a faulty 10GbE network card, which may have a major hardware issue that has sold way more units than this.

melmac · 8 Nov 2018 at 14:09

Kaapstad said:
Well get them to post in the thread I started so we can keep score and get an idea how big the problem is.

It is totally pointless having a thread like this where everything is subjective and where some people are looking for any excuse to stir the pot rather than looking at things in a logical and reasonable way.

If there is a problem lets find out what and how big it is.

I am not their boss, I can't make them do anything. If you are genuinely interested in posting unbiased data go through this and the owners thread and make a list on your problem thread.

Kaapstad · 8 Nov 2018 at 14:15

melmac said:
I am not their boss, I can't make them do anything. If you are genuinely interested in posting unbiased data go through this and the owners thread and make a list on your problem thread.

If people don't want to help themselves it is not my place to do it for them.

Having said that I am going to test some cards of my own and will make sure you are the first to know how I get on.

Are you going to wish me luck with my new cards?

melmac · 8 Nov 2018 at 14:16

Journey said:
I honestly don't think that there is much of an issue as people think, it is a new product to market on a new PCB design that has not been sold in large quantities. Yes there may be higher than usual failure rates compared to what you are used to seeing but it is far from abnormal for this sort of event to happen with a product this complex, which has 1st party and 3rd party hardware vendors, and software integration to consider. I doubt that this issue will exist beyond the first couple of batches of product, and as I have said previously a company the size of Nvidia will simply fix the issue and sweep it under the carpet like it didn't happen.

I am not excusing them, just trying to give people some insight that these things happen all the time, but as it's a consumer focused graphics card it is getting more scrutiny than say a faulty 10GbE network card, which may have a major hardware issue that has sold way more units than this.

Yes, I am sure they will sort it out, and I am also sure they will sweep it under the carpet like it didn't happen. It's just important that people keep complaining so that it does get sorted, just like people did with the 290 cards, just like people did with the fury x coil whine problem.

LoadsaMoney · 8 Nov 2018 at 14:25

anxious_f0x said:
Anyone remember that perfect Fury X launch where many of them had dead/dying pumps in the AIO?

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...........................

I remember it well, i sent back about 4 of the buggers.

melmac · 8 Nov 2018 at 14:26

Kaapstad said:
If people don't want to help themselves it is not my place to do it for them.

Having said that I am going to test some cards of my own and will make sure you are the first to know how I get on.

Are you going to wish me luck with my new cards?

But you are quite willing to state that there is no problem despite nobody posting in your thread.

If you aren't getting FE cards then you will more than likely be fine. The problems seem to affect FE cards the most.

And what kind of sick, twisted mind do you have? Do you think I would want your cards to be faulty? I hope nobody has ever any problem with any card they buy. And I hope you never have any issues either.

LoadsaMoney · 8 Nov 2018 at 14:36

A new drivers just been released.

anxious_f0x · 8 Nov 2018 at 14:37

LoadsaMoney said:
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...........................

I remember it well, i sent back about 4 of the buggers.

Yeah I sent back 2 myself, great little card though for its time

melmac · 8 Nov 2018 at 14:41

D.P. said:
People will only report when they have a problem, they will go googling and find the above surveys. The tens of thousands without a problem are busy enjoy their card and not doing google searches for something they have never heard of.

Its like going to a Hospital and then making the statement everyone must be sick or injured, ridiculously skewed data.

Yet, you were quite happy to believe all those people on forums when the 290 cards launched with issues. So not sure what your point is. People with issues complain the most, that's been known for years and years. But, if nobody complained and nobody posted about their issues nothing would ever change. AMD were quite willing to ignore the coil whine issue with the Fury X pumps until forums got inundated with people complaining. People who bought the 290's and complained about the black screens lead to that been solved.