2080ti cards failing ?

[D.P.]

Yet, you were quite happy to believe all those people on forums when the 290 cards launched with issues.

Prove it.

Hint, you will never find a single post
I was totally out of the GPU scene when the 290 was released, had no idea when it was released at all.

So not sure what your point is.

It is quite obvious.

People with issues complain the most, that's been known for years and years. But, if nobody complained and nobody posted about their issues nothing would ever change. AMD were quite willing to ignore the coil whine issue with the Fury X pumps until forums got inundated with people complaining. People who bought the 290's and complained about the black screens lead to that been solved.

I don; get what your point is?

I never said people shoudln't complain. I merely said the statistics of some random online poll was completely worthless.

 

[Gregster]

https://www.geforce.co.uk/drivers

Those with issues, try these drivers which have been released just now

 

[Smffy]

Sorry man, but, I know who De8auer is. I didn't use his name to highlight the fact that he is a Caseking Guy. He works for Caseking, He not only works at Caseking, he is a product marketer at Caseking. He isn't going to say anything in his videos that will affect the sales of their products negatively. And if you believe otherwise you are been naïve.

The document I linked to, isn't a random document. It was made by a forum member on the Nvidia forums in a thread asking for people with issues. The guy just gathered all the data in the thread into an easy to read excel document. If you read the thread you would know why there are some people in twice and three times. Some of those people bought 2 cards, some had to RMA the replacement card too.

So the average is completely wrong proving the point that it’s not a reliable benchmark... But if you choose to fixate on a sample of failure vs a guy stating factual percentages that’s your choice, calm down about it all though.

I don; get what your point is?

I never said people shoudln't complain. I merely said the statistics of some random online poll was completely worthless.

I don’t think he has one, just getting very worked up and prob doesn’t even own an RTX card. I’ve got two on the other hand and both are perfectly fine since day one.

 

[Kaapstad]

But you are quite willing to state that there is no problem despite nobody posting in your thread.

If you aren't getting FE cards then you will more than likely be fine. The problems seem to affect FE cards the most.

And what kind of sick, twisted mind do you have? Do you think I would want your cards to be faulty? I hope nobody has ever any problem with any card they buy. And I hope you never have any issues either.

I am starting to think the way some posters are carrying on that they do want the 20XX cards to be faulty, whether you are one of those people only you can say.

Just tried my 2 cards out at stock and got the highest score on the Heaven 4 bench for any number of cards.

https://www.geforce.co.uk/drivers


Those with issues, try these drivers which have been released just now

Just used them in the above run, there is nothing wrong with the performance.

 

[jonneymendoza]

notes

Changes and Fixed Issues in Version 416.81 The following sections list the important changes and the most common issues resolved in this version. This list is only a subset of the total number of changes made in this driver version. The NVIDIA bug number is provided for reference. Fixed Issues in this Release  [Windows Defender Application Guard][vGPU][Surround]: Edge Browser with Application Guard cannot be opened when Surround is enabled. [200443580]  [Turing GPU]: Multi-monitor idle power draw is very high. [2400161]  [GeForce RTX 2080 Ti][G-Sync]: Blue-screen crash may occur when exiting games when using a G-Sync monitor with a non-G-Sync monitor. [2431628]  [GeForce RTX 2080 Ti]: Stuttering occurs with HEVC video playback. [2414594]  [GeForce GTX 970]: When audio playback is paused, audio receiver switches from multi-channel to stereo. Increased period from 5 seconds to 10 seconds. [2327715]  [GeForce GTX 1060]AV receiver switches to 2-channel stereo mode after 5 seconds of audio idle. [2204857]  [SLI][NVIDIA TITAN X][NVENC]: Recording and streaming of NVENC applications do not work. [2421622]  [DirectX 11 games]: Mouse cursor causes FPS to go out of sync with windowed GSync. [2411009]  [ARK Survival]: Improved game stability. [2420789]  [Shadow of the Tomb Raider]: Improved game stability. [2416743]  [Witcher 3 Wild Hunt]: Flickering occurs during gameplay. [200455193]  [Monster Hunter World]: Corruption is seen when Volume Rendering is off. [2400914]  [Far Cry 5]: Flickering occurs during gameplay. [2400207]

 

[LambChop]

G-Sync]: Blue-screen crash may occur when exiting games when using a G-Sync monitor with a non-G-Sync monitor.

Erm.

 

[kevman]

G-Sync]: Blue-screen crash may occur when exiting games when using a G-Sync monitor with a non-G-Sync monitor.

Erm.

Think GN mentioned something about multi monitor issues. May be this

 

[Sasahara]

der8auer says his RMA rate of the 2080ti is 1.4% (he works for Caseking):

1.4% does look low compared to the 1080ti 4.6%. But that's with only 1 month from release compared to 20 months for the 1080ti. Now that 1.4% figure looks high. And 30 months for the 1080s 7.1% rate.

Now I know that the you will get a spike at the start with RMAs for dead on arrival cards, but when compared to the 2080s 0.17% it also looks bad as that's over 8 times the rate of failure.
Also note that it's the FE editions that appear to be worse.

 

[AthlonXP1800]

New batch of RTX 2080 Ti shipments now use Samsung GDDR6 memory chips instead of Micron.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/9vbhkb/nvidia_now_using_samsung_gddr6_on_new_fe/

Interesting.

Guess I will hold on a bit longer to see if new batch of MSI RTX 2080 Gaming X shipments will use Samsung GDDR6 memory chips then I will get one.

 

[jigger]

Fingers crossed the switch to Samsung memory dramatically lowers prices and improves availability.

 

[tommybhoy]

I am starting to think the way some posters are carrying on that they do want the 20XX cards to be faulty

I wouldn't say anyone wants users cards to directly fail-they want RTX to fail directly because of the pricing structure.

As they've financed PC gaming for X amount of years imo, they've invested enough to vent their frustrations any way they want as the price is overly obnoxious, will add that I'd say the loudest noise is coming from disgruntled NV users that previously backed up the ever increasing GPU cost until they themselves were priced out the game by Nv.

 

[jigger]

I wouldn't say anyone wants users cards to directly fail-they want RTX to fail directly because of the pricing structure.

As they've financed PC gaming for X amount of years imo, they've invested enough to vent their frustrations any way they want as the price is overly obnoxious, will add that I'd say the loudest noise is coming from disgruntled NV users that previously backed up the ever increasing GPU cost until they themselves were priced out the game by Nv.

For me the saddest part is the poor performance and lacklustre features, though that is doubly compounded by the loltastic pricing and poor availability. The high failure rate would also add to the problems.

Nvidia are at a low ebb.

 

[azazl187]

I am starting to think the way some posters are carrying on that they do want the 20XX cards to be faulty, whether you are one of those people only you can say.

Just tried my 2 cards out at stock and got the highest score on the Heaven 4 bench for any number of cards.





Just used them in the above run, there is nothing wrong with the performance.

My car is worth less than what you spent on GPUs lol. Crazy man!

 

[Gregster]

For me the saddest part is the poor performance and lacklustre features, though that is doubly compounded by the loltastic pricing and poor availability. The high failure rate would also add to the problems.

Nvidia are at a low ebb.

Poor performance? Pricing I would agree and availability also but poor performance, I would hate to see what is in your machine that gives such good performance and features.

 

[tommybhoy]

For me the saddest part is the poor performance and lacklustre features, though that is doubly compounded by the loltastic pricing and poor availability. The high failure rate would also add to the problems.

Nvidia are at a low ebb.

That's what happens when the replacement doubles in price, those that defended £650 last time "if you want it pay for it", "it's not a given right to own one", "you don't need to buy it"were rewarded with £1300 please.

It's certainly Nv's 'worst' release in terms of PR since I don't know when.

That's what happens when you shift the series numbering up a level-again, should have left the Ti as 80 but soo much greed got in the way this time.

Then they've also power locked GPUs with binning to stop hitting higher clocks, you have to pay another premium on top of the other two premiums to get a full fat chip.

Hopefully pricings hit it's ceiling.

Poor performance? Pricing I would agree and availability also but poor performance, I would hate to see what is in your machine that gives such good performance and features.

Performance is ok, the performance to cost ratio is what's killing perception of what makes it look bad/worse.

The crazy part is, they won't get much credit for RTX due to all the negativity for the series, which is quite sad really being the only vendor pushing new performance levels and new tech features these days.

 

[Rroff]

That's what happens when the replacement doubles in price, those that defended £650 last time "if you want it pay for it", "it's not a given right to own one", "you don't need to buy it"were rewarded with £1300 please.

Personally I have no beef with an actual high end product commanding whatever price - as I've said before what I have a problem is with the lineup behind it - in the past you'd have a silly money ultra card that was a lot of money but then a card behind that which was a good bit of the performance at a more reasonable price and then a mid-range card that was actually in reach of mid-range purchasers. The 2080 at max should be a £500 card (giving them some slight slack as it is quite a big core due to fitting in the RTX functionality) with the cards below that following down in price and there should be a card that has more like 3944 than 2944 shader cores at the kind of prices the 2080 is.

 

[Kaapstad]

I wouldn't say anyone wants users cards to directly fail-they want RTX to fail directly because of the pricing structure.

As they've financed PC gaming for X amount of years imo, they've invested enough to vent their frustrations any way they want as the price is overly obnoxious, will add that I'd say the loudest noise is coming from disgruntled NV users that previously backed up the ever increasing GPU cost until they themselves were priced out the game by Nv.

I agree the cards are way too expensive but I don't think it is because NVidia are being even greedier than before.

The extra cost comes from using bigger silicon to cope with the extra features the cards have.

My personal view is that NVidia should not have added RTX and DLSS this generation but waited for another couple of architecture advances so that those features would not use up so much silicon space.

Having said that if NVidia had produced Turing without those features but about 25% faster than Pascal for the same price then they would have to run the risk of AMD closing the performance/efficiency gap on them with their next architecture launch.



I have a question of my own perhaps someone could answer.

GPU prices from both vendors are becoming more expensive, more so NVidia but AMD are guilty too. How much influence do the foundaries that produce the silicon have on the pricing?

 

[Panos]

That's what happens when the replacement doubles in price, those that defended £650 last time "if you want it pay for it", "it's not a given right to own one", "you don't need to buy it"were rewarded with £1300 please.

Yeah. And even some still justifying the £1300.....
Next year they will be justifying £2000 for another 30% increase because "7nm you know is expensive duh", because I strongly believe AMD won't get on the market anything more powerful than GTX1080ti level performance at £270-300 bracket.

But of course the leaked PS5 specs might call me a complete liar on the previous sentence, who knows as is just a presentation leak at this time....
(11.2Tflop 7nm Navi with hardware ray tracing , 6 core 12 thread Zen 2)

 

[DarrenM343]

My personal view is that NVidia should not have added RTX and DLSS this generation but waited for another couple of architecture advances so that those features would not use up so much silicon space.

I personally think now is the right time. I say it's early days to judge too much. NV decided now is the time so it's what we have. In the case of RT, developers start thinking about and implementing it now. Both the HW and SW can then advance together. If we waited another 2 gens I'm in no doubt will be in a similar situation, lots of moaning about pricing and expecting 8K 60+FPS and developers with no experience of working with RT when the hardware has advanced a few generations.
As software vendors (game development houses, design houses) are the customers too, it makes sense to get it into their hands ASAP to start using. It also starts giving NV ROI.
Also the GPU's are not just for gaming as we know. Turing is often popping up in my feed with various video's showing the potential in media/design etc. Cheaper than a TX V too. One of the companies I work with might be interested in the tech to help with predictions.

I was just reading about a new £450k Ferrari with £14k wheels as an optional extra. Puts £1k GPU into perspective. Ferrari and other top end manufacturers can command top prices for top performance and new tech too. Shame around town they're hardly faster than my old £1200 1 Litre Yaris. . Neither a £450k Ferrari or a £1k GPU is really required by anyone but if we want it.....

I had the TXP before but decided £750 was enough for this round.I've no doubt next gen is going to be a better buy (RT further developed, DLSS more commonly used), but next gen is always better

 

[krzychowiec]

I have seen some slight artifacting on my 2080 Ti Sea Hawk only in one game, ROTTR, where the screen would do something like a flash with partially black screen for a single frame from time to time in specific locations, actually only one (Soviet Installation), the rest of the game does not have any problems. Other one was Witcher 3, which has similar issue and some rare shadows/AO flicker with the newest drivers, but it is fixed after switching back to 411.70. Issues in both games were not fixable with underclocking the memory or GPU and not related to any special features like Hairworks or VXAO. Other games tested are not showing any flickering even with aggressive OC and 380W BIOS (tested both BIOSes for ROTTR artifacting, the issues are exactly the same on both). So I am not even sure if this is hardware or software issue, especially that it occurs unfixably only in one game, is driver based in the other and there are no issues in all other games tested so far, and also long stress test loops like TimeSpy or Superposition Benchmark are not showing any problems even after hours of running. So for now I am not going to RMA, I will test another 10+ games, see what happens. Nowhere to rush, especially that retailers do not have anything to replace cards with anyway, especially not for watercooled models like mine.