I'm in support of it. I'd prefer it if it was only for certain areas like residential areas, outside schools, shops etc. I bet many drivers will still do a few mph over 20mph anyway. Negative for me is my auto (dsg) car is not economical at these speeds, won't get out of 3rd.
20mph residential speed limit (replacing 30mph)
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I got run over twice. Once when drunk at 18 on New years eve and ran across the road after my gf who i had just had a massive row with and got hit by a taxi. Waved him off and walked home. Had a cut above my eybrow which should have had stitches and the whole right side of my body was badly bruised. I reckon been blind drunk saved me from the worst.
The other one was only 6 month before when my dad ran me over with his tractor on his farm. luckily it was soft soil as the wheel ran over my arm and leg. Went to A&E, no broken bones but limped for a while.
Which is maybe the point? Caught doing 40 in a 20, which some people are happy doing in a 30, and you will be faced with lots of points and a massive fine or even ban.
I'll make a note of my gear and rpm next time I'm out at those speeds.
4spd... Dayyyum. Congrats on running an antique
I park it next to my penny farthing!
Soldato
lol 150k signatures against it, gg
I believe so. It really makes me want to move. No way I'm going to use my expensive ebike to go to town.
So really, it makes living in the suburbs just more unappealing.
You dont get the freedom of the countryside. But it's becoming so anti car it's still off putting to go to town.
You dont get the ease of going in to town as living in the city
I only go to out of town shopping now. Such is the hassle and cost of going into the city.
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Speed limits don't apply to cyclists.. I assume that's true in the UK.
There are bylaws which can be applied apparently. Also you still aren't supposed to undertake moving vehicles and trying to overtake people on a cycle is probably dangerous since you risk getting stuck in the center if they speed up.
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Or if you really want to go down the conspiracy rabbit hole, it's another step on the way to 15 minute cities and removal of all your freedoms, turning you into a borderline prisoner in and around your home, according to the lunatic fringe of social media
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It doesn't work that way though:
- 35mph is generally ignored too. Speed cameras have not been recalibrated, so the only risk to ignoring the 20mph is an actual police speed trap (I've not seen one for years).
- As 20mph was previously only reserved for residential zones, unlike other speed limits where 10% is generally accepted, officially there is no "leeway" in a 20 zone. Police can prosecute at 21mph and as far as I know this policy has not been changed.
Soldato
The law is speed limits do not apply to cyclists but if they are riding without due care and attention or dangerously past the speed limit then they can be prosecuted under wanton and furious cycling
Soldato
If they only gave tickets for people doing over 30 in a 20 it wouldn’t matter but a friend of mine recently got a ticket in London for 24 in a 20. I think I’d feel like driving my car into the speed camera if that happened to me 
A proper law was talked about only last year though. "Death by dangerous cycling" and also for speed limits to apply. I guess it would be an on the spot fine if caught. As well as for red light jumping.
TBH they should require insurance to use anything on the road too. If caught with it it the cycle/scooter whatever gets confiscated and you walk home with a fine.
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Soldato
It was still under review from what I can gather and not passed into law yet. It was one of the laws Grant Shapps was looking into but hes since moved on to Defence so who knows if its ever going to pass into law
Soldato
Not a chance..
Our new cycle way has narrowed the roads to a point Buses are now instructed to not overtake on a 7 mile stretch of road, with signs saying 'narrow lanes, do not overtake cyclists' (the narrow lanes are the final road width.. it's not temporary!).. so we get 50+ car trains stuck behind a bus that is stuck behind that one cyclist commuter (bandy legged, riding a knobbly tyred mountain bike, wobbling along at 5-10mph), this has led to a massive rise of clearly unrestricted throttle actuated eBikes as they whizz by, overtaking the train of cars/bus at 40mph+, no helmets etc.. The funny thing is if they spot a Police car in the train, they don't slow down, they faux pedal, knowing full well the police won't do anything, and they never do
Mind you, looking at the new eBikes, maybe the answer is, don't get mad, get even.. doing 40mph with no helmet and being able to be part of a 'victim' minority sounds enticing..
So the slower people go, the less attention they pay? Hmmm. I'm not sure about that. They just don't pay attention no matter how fast they're going. Better that they're doing 20mph and not paying attention than 30.
And whilst neither of my near misses were speeding issues, I was hit both times by vehicles doing <20mph due to their manoeuvres. My luck, even though I ended up crawling out from underneath a transit van, I suffered minor cuts and bruises. At 30mph, I'm dead. Twice.
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There's no official leeway for any speed limit it's a black and white offence you're either speeding or you're not. Generally most forces stick to the 10% + 2 guideline but if they decided overnight to start prosecuting for +1 there's nothing stopping them.
Well apart from the flood of admin work they would have to do for people going 1mph over the limit and the appealing it. It's there as a margin of error as some really old cars under-read and speed guns aren't 100% accurate.
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