***21.9 Ultrawide Thread***

[Nexus18]

Yes that's something to consider, but you know what places can be like about returning monitors etc.


Yes I've seen the unboxing videos, the box is huge!

Yup but they can't deny returns if you are within your 14 days of purchase The only thing some retailers might do is get you to arrange and cover the costs of shipping it back but if you buy from a good site like the rainforest jungle, they "should" cover all of that....

 

[Nexus18]

The LG G5 display has some strong points for a phone display but its calibration is beyond terrible and not really a good way of comparing it to monitors especially when the PPI is considerably higher than any monitor/TV display.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10217/the-lg-g5-review/4



When both the VA and IPS monitors are calibrated, head on, they should look very good with the VA being better for dark/black content, if viewing at an angle then IPS is better.

 

[Nexus18]

The 29" 2560x1080 screens are one of the few monitors priced "correctly", more so when they around the £250 mark, which I think ocuk do quite often.... Especially since the IPS panel being used is one of best for IPS i.e. a high contrast ratio (the highest I've seen for IPS at around 1200/1300:1), low input lag (you will need to check reviews etc. on this though, a lot of the monitors despite using the same panel can range from very low input [5-10ms] to high input lag [20+ms]) combined with decent pixel response rate + the lightest anti glare matte finish with a decent PPI of 95 to give a sharp looking display.

Generally the only complaints people have with a 2560x1080 29" screen are:

- the physical height
- the 1080 vertical res. (which imo isn't an issue at all unless you are someone who just has to have 4+ windows opened at the same time in every corner of screen.....)

 

[Nexus18]

No complaints from me for ikea stuff.

If there are any wobbles then it is the monitors stand that is crap, of which most of the 21.9 monitors stands are crap....



Good article on IPS VS VA, pretty much confirms what most enthusiasts should already know:

https://pcmonitors.info/others/ips-vs-va-100hz-ultrawides/

Had mine less than a week and already I know I would not want to go back to solely 16:9 monitors. As you say the slight loss of vertical (~1cm) is all I miss having come from a 24" 16:9. Makes my next monitor purchase a difficult one. 1440p ultrawide or 16:9?

21.9 for life for me, I rather have a lower res. 21.9 over a higher res. 16.9 screen any day of the week.

Saying that, you could get a large 32+" 16.9 4k screen and just use a custom 21.9 res. but then you would have black bars on the top and bottom.... This is what I will be doing whenever I get an OLED 55" 4k HDR TV.

 

[Nexus18]

Use madvr + MPC to help with the scaling.

However, if you are watching crap quality content i.e. just web rips, avi files or something along those lines then yes it will look even worse when the video is being zoomed in since you will be able to see all the faults such as noise, banding etc. even more. Get some storage and good quality content and with correct madvr/mpc settings, whilst not as sharp looking as it would be on a 16.9 display, it will still look very good and when sitting further back, the perception of sharpness/clarity will be even greater.

I've only seen 1 4k film and it was 21.9 i.e. no black bars.

 

[Nexus18]

I would love to have a easy to install and set up madvr + player package.. do you know any? like select between high / med / low, job done.

I'm looking at the new CF791. Can I use it for photo work? Not professional, just home use (A7R II + Prime lenses)

There is no straight forward guide for madvr as so many things impact the settings i.e.

- source of the video being the main thing, be it a poor quality encode or/and 720 VS 1080 VS 4k, bit rate etc. etc.
- what res. the display is that you are viewing said material on
- type of content i.e. anime?
- GPU power you have

etc. etc.

Not to mention there are different preferences for image quality i.e. some might like a very sharp look where as others will prefer a more natural/softer look.


This is a good basic guide for a quick setup here, although very out of date:

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/26-home-theater-computers/1357375-advanced-mpc-hc-setup-guide.html

And then these:

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=171787

http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=259188

Will seem very confusing at first but after a bit of reading, it starts to make a bit more sense.


I use these settings for my 2560x1080 monitor and 1920x1080 TV, all of my video content is the very best quality there is so I don't really have to faff about too much or bother with different profiles:











Everything else is left at default settings except I have smooth motion turned on.

 

[Nexus18]

Thanks! I guess you media Media Player Classic? I used to use this http://haruhichan.com/forum/showthread.php?7545-KCP-Kawaii-Codec-Pack, but it has not been updated for a while

Yup, MPC-HC is by far the best media player now, especially since they incorporated the LAV filters.

 

[Nexus18]

I just ordered the Asus MX34VQ and its arriving later today. Looking forward to see what this VA panel can muster. I am what you would call cautiously optimistic. Still haven't forgotten that **** poor samsung va monitor i tried in late 2016.

If you are referring to Samsung's first 34" 1440 VA monitor then prepare to be disappointed as iirc, the asus and all the other 100HZ 34" VA monitors are using the exact same panel as that.... (except for Samsung's newest 34" quantom dot one)

 

[Nexus18]

No i'm referring to a 1080p monitor from samsung known as C27F396FHU. Granted it is a cheapo monitor but it's so bad it is not even worth half the asking price. Weird part is every review i've seen says nothing but good things about it. This time i've gone by PCM2's review mostly and what scarce youtube footage there has been.

Ah I see!

Look forward to hearing how the asus holds up, the trailing/motion is pretty much the only thing that puts me of VA panels atm.

 

[Nexus18]

Well so fare the monitor is absolutely fantastic. There is only an ever so slight amount of overshot on one of the darker transitions and you really have to look for it. No dead pixels, the speakers sound very good for monitor speakers but cannot of course compare to a proper sound system. No visible backlight bleed either though I cannot check this in full until its dark outside.

On a side note: Bought a 580 to crossfire my 480 with and what a headache it is. Far Cry Primal seems to run fine but thats its. Cannot get Prey, BF1 to behave correctly and The Surge straight up wont work. Time to tinker :S

Nice! How's the IQ/colours compare to the previous IPS panels you've used as well as the anti glare coating?

 

[Nexus18]

Bernie Sanders has a 21.9 monitor!

https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/867538209424592896

 

[Nexus18]

LG 34" 2560x1080 144HZ gsync:

http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-34UC89G-B-ultrawide-monitor

$999

Lol......

 

[Nexus18]

34"+2560x1080=fail.

$999 = fail

As per usual, pricing is a joke for monitors and honestly who in their right mind would pay for this when you can get a 34" 100hz gsync 1440 for the same price or cheaper....

 

[Nexus18]

Speaking of asus, looks like they will be revealing a new 34" rog swift:

https://www.facebook.com/ASUSROG/videos/10156107737407388/

I wouldn't be surprised if it is still using one of the same panels (possibly VA this time since it has native 100HZ and with gsync, they could potentially push it to 120+HZ) though just with RGB lighting....

 

[Nexus18]

Depressing doesn't even cover it if it's Va, can't tolerate the smear on those panels. Currently rma my pg348q and nothing in the market tempts me. PC monitors are so depressing ..... think I'm finally gonna trade pioneer krp 500a to oled and move PC back to living room

Very wise decision

 

[Nexus18]

is that really the lineup for the rest of the year?! Nothing in 37 inch 100+hz and gsync?

Most likely unfortunately

There might be some 38" 3840x1600 free and g sync screens where gsync might allow a 100HZ overclock with 75HZ being native but other than that, yup I can't see there being anything that is much of an upgrade over what we have currently got.

 

[Nexus18]

3440x1440 120hz IPS count me in

If it is 120HZ (with an overclock), it will probably be a VA panel i.e. the same as the AOC agon 35"

 

[Nexus18]

I hope not . Will have to see although looking i think you may be right. The new acer z35p is VA and if AOC is VA then the new asus may be aswell.

Much downside to VA other than viewing angles over IPS?

Aside from viewing angles/colour consistency and "possibly" some smearing in certain transitions (mostly dark objects on a light background), not really imo but in return you get a higher contrast ratio with better blacks and little to no backlight bleed.

PCM2 did a good article comparing 100HZ VA and IPS ultrawides:

https://pcmonitors.info/others/ips-vs-va-100hz-ultrawides/

 

[Nexus18]

Unsure what to expect here, either:

- 2560x1080 panel, will be surprised if that is 3440x1440 at 200HZ (certainly not native anyway) but who knows, with DP 1.4, it is possible, however, there has been nothing about a 3440x1440 120+HZ (native) being in production....
- edge lit (would look awful) or FALD (after the latest video on the dell FALD this, it also looks awful) if it has somewhat "true" HDR
- or if it is the fake ******** HDR, then it is just a marketing term/badge they can throw on said slide/box
- assuming it will most likely be VA panel since quantum dot (probably supplied by Samsung?)

EDIT:

Ok, it is 3440x1440!



Interesting, hopefully it is native and not some overclock from native 100HZ

 

[Nexus18]

If that PG35VQ is 2560x1080 @ 35" then it's a joke. It would render any benefit from HDR virtually pointless... assuming it's true HDR, which I doubt as these panels are unlikely to be 1000nit brightness.

I do worry PC monitors will go the same way as TV's, with every new model claiming to offer HDR while not being remotely capable of it.

It is 3440x1440, edited my post above.

Personally I would take a true good HDR 35" 2560x1080 over a 35" 3440x1440 non-HDR display any day of the week, resolution is nice but imo contrast ratio with great black depth is far superior, especially in gaming where the resolution/PPI increase isn't that noticeable (even more when you have VSR and the likes)

But yeah, I am not feeling hopeful about any form of HDR now after seeing dell's 27" 4k with 384 FALD zones:

Not to mention the price will be crazy stupid.

EDIT:

EDIT: Well according to THIS, it's 3440x1440, so that's OK. I don't know what panel they're using though... HDR needs 10-bit and 1000nits. I don't know of a 35" 21:9 panel that offers this, but there isn't one that does 200Hz either, so perhaps it's an all new one?

AFAIK, the likes of FALD are completely separate to the panel/screen itself (and as a result are what allows low black depth, high brightness without needing to have the panel capable to achieving such values although the bit depth is down to the panel and this could just be 8 bit with FRC like the others...), someone more knowledgeable would need to confirm this though.....

But yes, I'm not aware of any 3440x1440 144+HZ screens in production so it could be a new thing or maybe they have someone managed to get a nice overclock going....

EDIT:

Also, for all we know, maybe it might be able to hit 200HZ but only in 2560x1080 mode....