***21.9 Ultrawide Thread***
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Don't put up with it if it is bothering you.... Especially not for £800/900..... This is why monitors are so crap these days for issues like this because people are just putting up with it, which is essentially giving the thumbs up for them to continue to put out monitors with awful quality. It is a fault of lazy QC. If more people had voiced these issues i.e. by returning them then the manufacturers would quickly see the return rates and how much money they were losing from this so they would do everything they could in order to improve their QC etc.
Yes it is a faff having to RMA etc. but you are entitled to do so and if ocuk give you any **** about then you use your 14 CCR right to return the product for a full refund.
Yes it is a faff having to RMA etc. but you are entitled to do so and if ocuk give you any **** about then you use your 14 CCR right to return the product for a full refund.
Yup no one would spend that just for better QC but this is the problem, monitors haven't really advanced at all in terms of panel improvements, the only thing we have really improved upon over the last few years is resolution, refresh rate and g/free sync, the actual panel for IQ/colours hasn't jumped forward anywhere as much, it is still very basic/bare bones, especially compared to TVs now yet somehow, they cost considerably more money (obviously other factors have played a part in rising costs too though)
All my previous monitors purchased before this LG 29um65 were/are perfect, zero bleed, zero dead pixels, no need to go through 2/3+ monitors just to get an "acceptable" one and you also didn't see people complain as much back then about dead pixels, bleed etc. either. It is almost like manufacturers decided to drop/cut back on QC, forget about making giant leaps in panel improvements and charge a massive amount more (more so with for the "high" end monitors)
Honestly, being a monitor reviewer must be extremely boring at times as most monitors all use the same panel with hardly any real difference, only differences are generally a few features and the design.
I think the back light bleed problem that plagues pretty much every IPS monitors these days is largely down to the manufacturers trying to make slim/thin displays as well as having thinner bezels etc. as that is were back light bleed is generally coming from i.e. the chassis assembly is too tight on the panel and IPS panels seem to be more sensitive to pressure than the likes of VA and TN panels + having 32+" displays probably makes it even harder to get the panel housing "properly" fitted.
Post here and hope that you get Bailey, he was great for me when it came to my 29um65's and backlight bleed.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/forums/component-technical-support.119/
Well that is a ******* joke... Absolute **** take and quite frankly etailers such as ocuk should be ashamed of themselves for selling faulty products. I have to laugh at etailers that say "bleed" is normal for IPS/UW monitors, it most certainly is not! Mine has zero bleed, my 3 dells have zero bleed and the countless other IPS monitors that I have seen over the years have zero bleed.
Thanks for letting us know anyway as I won't be buying any display from ocuk again in the future.
Thanks for letting us know anyway as I won't be buying any display from ocuk again in the future.
I'm genuinely shocked tbh as like I said Bailey was great for me when it came to my 29um65's and yours look just as bad, my second one iirc with a normal brightness setting and with lights turned on:
If that was acceptable for a RMA, then yours should be too, especially for a £900 monitor lol....
Who knows, perhaps due to 90% of the IPS monitors today being plagued with issues, they just can't afford to keep doing RMAs etc.
Oh well, ocuks loss and I imagine people reading your post will also now be put of buying any future monitors from ocuk if this is the service you can expect from spending nearly a grand on a single item....
The above is not IPS glow, it is back light bleed, IPS glow looks something like this:
IPS VA VA:
Orange/yellow corners like this image are back light bleed.
Good to see you have somewhat got a result but still, poor show from ocuk by more or less saying that is fit for use lol...
IPS VA VA:
Orange/yellow corners like this image are back light bleed.
Good to see you have somewhat got a result but still, poor show from ocuk by more or less saying that is fit for use lol...
Samsung C34F791 Review:
https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/samsung-c34f791/
Not bad looking at all, just a shame it has such a steep curve, rather high input lag and still issues with some motion/response time
https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/samsung-c34f791/
Not bad looking at all, just a shame it has such a steep curve, rather high input lag and still issues with some motion/response time
Curve is personal preference. Some like it, some hate it, I don't mind the subtle curve on the likes of the acer IPS 34" or even the other VA 34" screens but Samsung's curve is ridiculous imo. If you are always sitting directly in front and in the centre then it might be fine.
Seems like the other 34" VA screens are using Samsung's old panel that they used in their first 34" 1440 VA screen, so yet again, these manufacturers are all just using more or less the same panels but with a few improvements to be able to hit a higher refresh rate....
Another 21.9 34" 1440 VA monitor:
http://www.philips.com.sg/c-p/349X7FJEW_00/brilliance-curved-ultrawide-lcd-display/specifications
Looks like the manufacturers have got fed up with all the bleed/glow complaints associated with the IPS panels and are now jumping ship to VA
Some news on new panels:
Personally I will avoid any type of edge lit local dimming monitor as it creates issues with certain scenes like the following:
http://www.philips.com.sg/c-p/349X7FJEW_00/brilliance-curved-ultrawide-lcd-display/specifications
Looks like the manufacturers have got fed up with all the bleed/glow complaints associated with the IPS panels and are now jumping ship to VA
Some news on new panels:
Personally I will avoid any type of edge lit local dimming monitor as it creates issues with certain scenes like the following:
Should be 5 years too like their other 34" monitors.
Personally I'm now put of by VA, at least the current panels as it seems like banding etc. is more of an issue:
I like my deep blacks and high contrast ratio but I hate banding!
~EDIT:
Some nice NASA wallpapers
http://imgur.com/a/dmFJ7
Personally I'm now put of by VA, at least the current panels as it seems like banding etc. is more of an issue:
I like my deep blacks and high contrast ratio but I hate banding!
~EDIT:
Some nice NASA wallpapers
http://imgur.com/a/dmFJ7
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No idea as not seen the 2 side by side in real life but going by past VA screens, most likely.
However, I think it is largely down to various factors:
- calibration, generally the more accurate the display, the more likely it is to show any gradient banding especially if it is present in the source material (for films, madvr with MPC has debanding algorithms to sort out any banding that is present in the source)
- VA has considerably better blacks and contrast ratio + not as significant glow as IPS so IPS glow with the poor contrast ratio + poor blacks somewhat masks banding issues
If the guy who took that photo really wanted to show a "fair" comparison, he should have used this test:
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gradient.php
As for all we know, that game could just have some bad banding.... Either that or he has got awful calibration for both....
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Not seen any of that res.