***21.9 Ultrawide Thread***

Keep updating with impressions, Super. The Z35 is still on my list. How's motion in games? Some people had issues with that.

I've got my LG 34um68 setup and so far things are very positive, but with one familiar fly in the ointment. I've no problems at all with 2560x1080. Not as nice for desktop use as the 34" Dell i'm used to, but i'm surprised by how much it isn't an issue. I'd pick this over a 16:9 1440p monitor all day long for desktop use. Games are the star and look and run great. In fact, most of my time has been spent trying to cap the frame rate from going above 75fps! I do miss the curve on the Dell a little, but it's not a big deal. What might turn out to be a big deal is what seems to be a big patch of bleed in the lower left corner which has become more and more obvious as the sun has gone down. I'll see what's what tonight when the sun goes down fully, but am concerned this will become a deal breaker.
 
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mooey said:
Do you notice any blur with the z35? Not sure whether to get the z35 or pay the extra for the x34a.
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I was worried about that, as it's a VA panel.
Coming from a middle range 2ms TN 27'' at 60hz, I don't see anything wrong so far with the Z35.

I've occasionally seen some black trails in darker environments in Fallout 4, but it is easily counterbalanced thanks to the picture quality, contrast and 120hz. I honestly don't mind what I saw. I'm not a perfectionist or a professional gamer, there's even one dead pixel and I don't mind, really. Some might be more annoyed than me.

I also played Far Cry Primal for some time, and it felt really good. I need to play games involving darker environments to make sure it's all fine. Fallout 4 Far Harbor so far is really beautiful.
 
Superlevure said:
So, after a few hours with my Z35, here are my impressions.

The 100+ fps is totally stunning. (I used to have a 27 inches @60hz)
I wasn't sure I would keep it when I saw how big it was, and I wasn't impressed by the wide and large picture like I thought I would be.
And sadly: I don't see the curve anymore! only after a few hours, I already got used to it, it seems :( Also, in fps/shooters, we look in the centre of the screen a lot. I need to try the Fallout/RPG type. Maybe Mad Max? Soma?

After a while, I started to enjoy it more and more. The colours and contrast, compared to my rather basic 27 inches AOC, make the games look really beautiful.

I suppose I need to find a game I've never played before to experience the immersion a bit more.
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mooey said:
Do you notice any blur with the z35? Not sure whether to get the z35 or pay the extra for the x34a.
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Having heard several say that the transition time for darker pixels is slower than desired causeing a motion blur effect kept me from getting it as it cost a pretty penny. But its good to hear someone is actually enjoying it :) congrats on the monitor
 
I've spent about 20-30 minutes on the introduction of GTA5. Very smooth 75-90 with one drop to 50 and some peaks at 120fps. No blur noticed, and fantastic, smooth driving. I love it. (GTA5 is a very bright game, though, unlikely to challenge the Z35 va panel)

I noticed some long freezes, rarely, but it does happen. It never happened before, could that be due to the Gsync?
 
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Hi fellas,

I change my mind more than a woman when it comes to this monitor buying business. I've sorta made peace with the fact that I'm going to have to spend a bit of money to get away from potential backlight bleeding issues found in cheaper 21.9 monitors. Being new(ish) to NZ, I'm not sure how keen they are on playing RMA ping pong and I don't want to go through the whole lottery if I can help it. Was kinda settled on an AOC 34' last night but as I understand, they're selling off the old stock here in the remaining NZ e-tailer that does stock them and with 5 left in the country, I'm not fancying my changes ...

So, I've settled on these possible monitors;

DELL ULTRASHARP U3415W

LG 34UC88-B 34

SAMSUNG S34E790C 34

ACER PREDATOR Z35 35

They're all within the MAX, to the penny, on what I'm willing to spend. I'm already well over my mental budget here :p

A word on the Acer Predator, it's not 1440p which is kinda disappointing as I want to go 1440p (the whole reason I'm looking to upgrade in the first place), so it really is a last pick here.

I know it's a question of 'how long is a bit of string', but which one of these are classed as the better monitor for gaming? As I understand some of these have VA panels which helps (or eradicate?) the whole backlight bleeding business? I'm not too finicky with most things of technology but I've seen some backlight bleeding and I know it's not something I'll stand for. Unless it's a minuscule amount. Sad to think that's still a fact of life in 2016, but there you go ... topic for another thread.

So if you had to go for one of these on top, which one is known to have the least amount of issues? I'm obviously well aware of the fact that **** happens but I'm speaking statistically here.

many thanks !
 
Any Free-Sync's owners around here ? I am sort of contemplating such a screen, been looking at the Acer XR341CKB, which is 34'' and 3440 x 1440. Since I have a Samsung that size and resolution so I know I don't want anything less then that. At the same time though, not sure if I should, considering there is not much information about the new AMD cards yet, and not sure is I want to get locked to a particular brand either. So need some more info about these screens, and maybe there is another Free-Sync for less £$ then the Acer that are well review too ? Would it make a huge different in playing games etc, compared to a normal screen ? (Yes, I'm a total n00b when it comes to G/Free-Sync screens :o )

Or should I do the famous wait for the next screens and see what they offer, that is if there is any in the near-ish future to be released that is ! :p
 
If you want that size, resolution and freesync, then the XR34 is the one to go for at the moment. The newer LGs look pretty nice too, but the freesync range isn't too great.

After playing more with the LG 34um68 I've decided I want one - just not this one. The bleed in the lower left near the worst I've seen. Even with 16:9 it creeps into the picture. It's noticeable in dark games during gameplay - Alien Isolation, Dark Souls 3 - and distractingly obvious with 16:9.
 
I've been testing the motion blur thing on my newly acquired Z35.

On a page like this: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/, you will not be able to read the topics list as you move the window or scroll up and down (but could I read that with my TN panel?) When it's stopped though, the blacks look very dark and reading becomes very comfortable. All the blur goes away when you activate the ULMB ("ultra low motion blur"?) but then you lose the Gsync, which is fine when not gaming.

In Gaming, textures do become blurry when you move the mouse left to right quite quickly, which is not an issue because this is usually to re-center the point of view on a scene, and all goes back to normal when you stop. Textures do not become blurry and moving backwards/forwards/right/left: this kind of movement is not fast enough to cause the 'smearing'.

Interestingly, I found the smearing in quick camera movements to be almost pleasant. In a game situation, poor visual artefacts appear precisely during those quick camera movements (tearing and low framerate for example). Here, the smearing looks like a gentle, hard to perceive motion blur, that 'compensates' quick camera movements, in a way. 13 days left to make sure I'm not making a mistake here.

Tested in Assassin Creed Syndicate, 70-85 fps. My reference was the detailed and well textured facades of tall Victorian building.

I also tried Shadow of Mordor earlier today, and it looks totally amazing :) It's too bad I did all those games already.
 
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Hi fellas,

I change my mind more than a woman when it comes to this monitor buying business. I've sorta made peace with the fact that I'm going to have to spend a bit of money to get away from potential backlight bleeding issues found in cheaper 21.9 monitors. Being new(ish) to NZ, I'm not sure how keen they are on playing RMA ping pong and I don't want to go through the whole lottery if I can help it. Was kinda settled on an AOC 34' last night but as I understand, they're selling off the old stock here in the remaining NZ e-tailer that does stock them and with 5 left in the country, I'm not fancying my changes ...

So, I've settled on these possible monitors;

DELL ULTRASHARP U3415W

LG 34UC88-B 34

SAMSUNG S34E790C 34

ACER PREDATOR Z35 35

They're all within the MAX, to the penny, on what I'm willing to spend. I'm already well over my mental budget here :p

A word on the Acer Predator, it's not 1440p which is kinda disappointing as I want to go 1440p (the whole reason I'm looking to upgrade in the first place), so it really is a last pick here.

I know it's a question of 'how long is a bit of string', but which one of these are classed as the better monitor for gaming? As I understand some of these have VA panels which helps (or eradicate?) the whole backlight bleeding business? I'm not too finicky with most things of technology but I've seen some backlight bleeding and I know it's not something I'll stand for. Unless it's a minuscule amount. Sad to think that's still a fact of life in 2016, but there you go ... topic for another thread.

So if you had to go for one of these on top, which one is known to have the least amount of issues? I'm obviously well aware of the fact that **** happens but I'm speaking statistically here.

many thanks !
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Short answer? Go for the Dell. It's the best if you include chances of backlight bleed and general quaility issues. It's not the best like absolute best, it has some minor defects too, like kinda slow-ish response times but we're talking milliseconds here so unless you're a goddamn pro you will never notice it. But it's kinda slow.

The Z35 is a different beast, not only because it's VA, like the Samsung, but because it's 1080p not 1440p. If you ask me? Don't go Z35. Don't go VA either. It has no blb but comes with other issues.

The LG might be a good option too but at that point I'd go AOC, which in fact was not a bad idea in the first place since it costs 100bux less than the Dell anyway.
 
johnnystuff said:
Short answer? Go for the Dell. It's the best if you include chances of backlight bleed and general quaility issues. It's not the best like absolute best, it has some minor defects too, like kinda slow-ish response times but we're talking milliseconds here so unless you're a goddamn pro you will never notice it. But it's kinda slow.

The Z35 is a different beast, not only because it's VA, like the Samsung, but because it's 1080p not 1440p. If you ask me? Don't go Z35. Don't go VA either. It has no blb but comes with other issues.

The LG might be a good option too but at that point I'd go AOC, which in fact was not a bad idea in the first place since it costs 100bux less than the Dell anyway.
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Cheers for the reply.

I saw the Dell and LG next to each other today in store. Even the girl I was with (who can't tell a monitor from a TV) remarked that the Dell had a better overall aesthetic. When it came to picture quality, I literally couldn't see a difference. The Dell weren't as curved as the LG which I liked.

Kinda wanted to go AOC (like the dual setup you posted in the AOC thread) but at this point it's just too risky.

Anyway, I've emailed the company I'll be dealing with re their RMA policies (God I miss being back home sometimes and dealing only with OCUK) and waiting to hear back.

I've not seen the Samsung in the flesh but for now I'll put the Dell at the top of the list.

Anyone else wanna throw in their 2 cents?
 
Personally I would go.for the Samsung. If we are honest the biggest issue with these monitors is often blb. The Dell and lg often have some, occasionally have loads and thus you would want to RMA it. The Samsung won't have any as it is VA. Yes you have the other risks that all monitors have such as stuck pixels or dust in between the screen but I don't believe the Samsung is any worse or better for these issues than any other.

I had the Samsung beside the aoc for quite a while and personally I loved it for gaming and all other uses. I know loads of people moan about VA issues and pixel shape but I just couldn't see any such issue even with a good tips widescreen right beside it to compare.

Maybe people are just over sensitive about such things or I am under sensitive, i don't know!

On another note you mention note liking the increased curve on the lg, I assume this is the newer lg's? If so I would highlight that the Samsung curve sits somewhere between the lg amd the Dell. That being said I love curved monitors but I do sorta fee they are a bit of a gimmick as after an hour of using any curve I generally fail to notice it anymore.
 
regulus said:
Hi fellas,

I change my mind more than a woman when it comes to this monitor buying business. I've sorta made peace with the fact that I'm going to have to spend a bit of money to get away from potential backlight bleeding issues found in cheaper 21.9 monitors. Being new(ish) to NZ, I'm not sure how keen they are on playing RMA ping pong and I don't want to go through the whole lottery if I can help it. Was kinda settled on an AOC 34' last night but as I understand, they're selling off the old stock here in the remaining NZ e-tailer that does stock them and with 5 left in the country, I'm not fancying my changes ...

So, I've settled on these possible monitors;

DELL ULTRASHARP U3415W

LG 34UC88-B 34

SAMSUNG S34E790C 34

ACER PREDATOR Z35 35

They're all within the MAX, to the penny, on what I'm willing to spend. I'm already well over my mental budget here :p

A word on the Acer Predator, it's not 1440p which is kinda disappointing as I want to go 1440p (the whole reason I'm looking to upgrade in the first place), so it really is a last pick here.

I know it's a question of 'how long is a bit of string', but which one of these are classed as the better monitor for gaming? As I understand some of these have VA panels which helps (or eradicate?) the whole backlight bleeding business? I'm not too finicky with most things of technology but I've seen some backlight bleeding and I know it's not something I'll stand for. Unless it's a minuscule amount. Sad to think that's still a fact of life in 2016, but there you go ... topic for another thread.

So if you had to go for one of these on top, which one is known to have the least amount of issues? I'm obviously well aware of the fact that **** happens but I'm speaking statistically here.

many thanks !
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The Dell u3415w is notorious for IPS glow, i have owned one myself. Was only usable during the day. Had serious issues with slow pixel transition in the darker spectrum. Look it up on tftcentral. Otherwise gorgeous monitor.

ACER PREDATOR Z35, Pros: pretty darn fast overall for an ultrawide, Cons: Black/dark pixels takes longer to transition which can lead to undesired motion blur like effect. To what extent i dont know, im purely going on the reviews of the VA panel that i have read.

The sammy i know little about, but i would research the va panel before getting it.

The thing is with ultrawides from LG, that the price doesnt not dictate if you are going to have backlight bleed or IPS glow. Example would be my 230 pound 29um57 which was perfect in both catagories. What you want to look for is an 8 model(from 2016, um68, uc88 and so on) or if that is not possible a 7 model (from 2015, um57,um67 and so on). The 8 series has, according to LG representative here, been improve in these areas. I myself am looking forward to see how well this is when i get my 34um68.
 
Got my x34a yesterday.

Don't get me wrong the games I play That support the native resolution look jaw dropping.

But over half my games don't.
Metal gear 5, dark souls III being the main ones.
Huge black borders.

I know there are some third party work arounds but they don't work when a new patch is released and can get you banned for modifying the game code :(.

Why on earth don't all current generation games work with this?

I mean shadow of Mordor looks spectacular and is what 18 months old?
 
Serial45 said:
Got my x34a yesterday.

Don't get me wrong the games I play That support the native resolution look jaw dropping.

But over half my games don't.
Metal gear 5, dark souls III being the main ones.
Huge black borders.

I know there are some third party work arounds but they don't work when a new patch is released and can get you banned for modifying the game code :(.

Why on earth don't all current generation games work with this?

I mean shadow of Mordor looks spectacular and is what 18 months old?
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The borders arent really a problem now is it? 34" UW + 16:9 = 27" 16:9 monitor, almost literally.
 
JamesMay said:
The borders arent really a problem now is it? 34" UW + 16:9 = 27" 16:9 monitor, almost literally.
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Well it is a bit pain in losing literally a third of my screen in dark souls III.
Such a shame, didn't lay all this money to game on a 26" widescreen.
Have two huge black borders with a smaller box in the middle.

Plus I just upgraded from a 27" rog swift 2560*1440
 
Serial45 said:
Well it is a bit pain in losing literally a third of my screen in dark souls III.
Such a shame, didn't lay all this money to game on a 26" widescreen.
Have two huge black borders with a smaller box in the middle.

Plus I just upgraded from a 27" rog swift 2560*1440
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Always check on WSGF, if there's a way to enable it (and iirc there is for both the games you mentioned) it's there. Actually, here.
 
Serial45 said:
dark souls III being the main ones.
Huge black borders.
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I know it's a pain, but 5-10 mins of tinkering and DS3 runs fine in 21:9. Looks real good too. Hopefully it will become a standard one day, but at the mo 21:9 is still niche and we're going to have to tinker.


I just spun up Alien Isolation with flawless widescreen and it looks truly glorious :) (during the day when I cab't see the bleed in the bottom corner!). For what it's worth, i'm more and more happy with the um68 - the combination of ultrawide, freesync and constant 60+ fps in pretty much every game is stunning. I'm prepared to go through a few and get a keeper.
 
Warbie said:
I know it's a pain, but 5-10 mins of tinkering and DS3 runs fine in 21:9. Looks real good too. Hopefully it will become a standard one day, but at the mo 21:9 is still niche and we're going to have to tinker.


I just spun up Alien Isolation with flawless widescreen and it looks truly glorious :) (during the day when I cab't see the bleed in the bottom corner!). For what it's worth, i'm more and more happy with the um68 - the combination of ultrawide, freesync and constant 60+ fps in pretty much every game is stunning. I'm prepared to go through a few and get a keeper.
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Cool mate I'll have a good trinket over the next week got another 13 days before I need to return it.
Might order the 32" 4K and compare them
 
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