***21.9 Ultrawide Thread***

yeah that looks nice Harry.

I'm not purposely setting out to be an arse about it, Nexus will tell you it's been a running joke thing with me and him for months and months :). I just hear of multiple games not supporting it properly, having to run 3rd party tools on many instances to get it working somewhat correctly. If the screens are that good or that popular then surely every developer has to properly support them from the off.

Like I said above, I can only go on what I've seen in the flesh, maybe I need to find a way of giving it another look in the future. It's also the whole wide screen so close I don't really get, just looks a bit weird to my eye. More than likely due to the extensive years I've just gamed on a 16:9 panel. I guess it's no different to when you buy that 55" TV for your lounge, it looks fine in the shop, but get it home and you're like wow holy crap it's big. But after a while it just begins very normal looking.
 
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TonyTurbo78 said:
I'd rather have 3 separates mate, which as you know I'm doing. It's far more immersive as a wrap around rather than 1 long squished screen
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Not squished, just wider :p

3 screens/eyefinity is superb for an immersive experience with thin bezel screens but personally I would be wary of these things:

- support, it is very patchy, more so than 21.9 these days (unless are the screens purely for your racing games?)
- conflicting issues i.e. as you know, even just having 2 screens connected can sometimes cause problems with games and certain drivers and when you add freesync on top of that, you "could" have more issues and add crossfire to the mix, even more (although I think you said you are moving to one top end card for definite?)
- the GPU power required, 3x1080P screens = 5760x3240 resolution in total, even higher than 4k! :p

Also, worth factoring in the price, I think you said it would come to £1000? Get a big TV instead, heck throw in an extra £600 and get a 55" 4K HDR OLED TV! :p Or you could buy the 38" screen that jedi has and be getting curved 10 bit IPS, 3840x1600, still though, I wouldn't even be wanting to pay that much for a single monitor.

harry5522 said:
Funnily going from 4:3 to 16:9 i did the exact same thing.
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That is exactly how I feel with regards to going from 4:3 to 16:9.

TonyTurbo78 said:
yeah, had a look at a friends a while back, to me everything looked squished and out of proportion and I just didn't like the experience it gave me. Maybe it was a one off bad experience but until I see other I've nothing else to base it on. I just think they look silly being that wide on a desk 30 inches from your face.
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Was he one of these 21.9 users who refuses to add/fix 21.9 support? :p

With regards to viewing distance, with the 34"+ screens, I can't believe some people sit so close to them. I only have the 29" version and I have to sit quite far back to really appreciate the 21.9 factor, sitting so close to the screens just takes away from the 21.9 extra FOV/wideness in my eyes.
 
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purely for racing/flight sims which tends to be perfectly supported mate.

And not worried about price or pc performance, just sold my very very clean '91 Escort RS Turbo yesterday for a lot!!! of money :) Lets just say I could build 5+ extreme high end PCs with the money. Will be going Vega once she drops.
 
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yeah that looks nice Harry.

I'm not purposely setting out to be an arse about it, Nexus will tell you it's been a running joke thing with me and him for months and months :). I just hear of multiple games not supporting it properly, having to run 3rd party tools on many instances to get it working somewhat correctly. If the screens are that good or that popular then surely every developer has to properly support them from the off.

Like I said above, I can only go on what I've seen in the flesh, maybe I need to find a way of giving it another look in the future. It's also the whole wide screen so close I don't really get, just looks a bit weird to my eye. More than likely due to the extensive years I've just gamed on a 16:9 panel. I guess it's no different to when you buy that 55" TV for your lounge, it looks fine in the shop, but get it home and you're like wow holy crap it's big. But after a while it just begins very normal looking.
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We just like to troll too much ;) :p :D

Support is funny, a lot of old games work fantastically with it yet some don't and then some new games work great but others don't i.e. batman arkham asylum 21.9 support is better than arkham knight's 21.9 support although I will put that down to the ****** small time studio handling the PC port :p Most of the new games that don't support it at all is purely down to the developers not wanting to for certain reasons i.e.

- overwatch - provides an advantage and originally the reason was it ruins the art work lol..
- resident evil - ruins the experience by seeing more since the game is suppose to feel closed in

Those are the only 2 recent games that I know of, which don't properly support it as well as there being no proper fixes.

Rising storm 2 doesn't have it atm but it is in their roadmap to be added and insurgency etc. have it so it should be there for the final release.

For myself, I have had very little issue with 21.9, first 1-2 years definitely were poor (as there weren't many fixes and they took longer to come as 21.9 was the new kid on the block so not many users/interest)

It definitely takes some getting used to, at first, I was so so about it but after having used it for a week or so and then going back to 16.9, it is a bit like what people say about g/free sync tech, you only mainly realise just how good the tech. is once you go back to a non g/free sync monitor and I've been using 21.9 for around 4 years now so 16.9 feels very foreign to my eyes now.

TonyTurbo78 said:
purely for racing/flight sims which tends to be perfectly supported mate.

And not worried about price or pc performance, just sold my very very clean '91 Escort RS Turbo yesterday for a lot!!! of money :) Lets just say I could build 10+ high end PCs with the money. Will be going Vega once she drops.
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Ah fair enough, eyefinity probably be better for the sims then, well actually what would be very nice is one 21.9 screen in the middle and 2 x 16.9 screens of similar height on the sides ;)

Oh very nice :cool: Surely should you not be looking at the rich boys GPUs/tech i.e. nvidia and gsync and leaving the AMD peasant club! :p :D ;) For me it is the principle, monitor manufacturers take the **** with their pricing especially for "high end" monitors.

foster grant said:
Not sure if this is the right place to ask but is this Monitor worth the money please ?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/aoc-...curved-led-monitor-black-silve-mo-04a-ao.html
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Too dear for what it is imo.
 
must confess after 2 days of owning the x34a it is starting to grow on me , sure the colours aren't as good and the blacks are well ..... grey but the 100hz motion with gysnc is very nice.

I sessioned the panel hard yesterday then went back to my kuro which is 60hz and boy can I see the difference from 60 to 100. I thought 60 was fine but 100 with gsync is like butter and makes 60hz seems slightly odd.

The backlight bleed bottom left of screen I do find anoying on dark content but wary of swapping as no dead pixels ,scan lines noticed, or coil whine.

Correct me if I'm wrong but they all have left corner glow on this type of monitor to a certain extent , so I could end up with worse.
 
For myself, I wouldn't put up with back light bleed "if" it is noticeable in normal usage with an appropriate brightness setting. Imo it is a fault and there are monitors out there with no back light bleed.
 
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For myself, I wouldn't put up with back light bleed "if" it is noticeable in normal usage with an appropriate brightness setting. Imo it is a fault and there are monitors out there with no back light bleed.
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It doesn't show up whilst gaming only if the screen is dark. Normally I would swap in heartbeat considering price etc I just don't want to end up endlessly swapping panels when I could get worse or one with dead pixels.

I'll post picture shortly when back on mobile at moment.
 
I've come to terms with IPS glow I've had it on all my IPS screens.

The vivid colours make up for the not so great blacks. Roll on OLED 3440x1440 200hz 0.1ms gsync and whatever other crazy tech comes along in 45 years when ^ is available
 
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fenchu said:
It doesn't show up whilst gaming only if the screen is dark. Normally I would swap in heartbeat considering price etc I just don't want to end up endlessly swapping panels when I could get worse or one with dead pixels.

I'll post picture shortly when back on mobile at moment.
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Hard to say by photos but personally, I think that would bug me. But as you said, for all you know, you could get a worse one :(

I watch a lot of dark content as well as play a lot of dark games and with my first 2 29" monitors, it was awful, I could even notice it in bright conditions :/

If you don't notice it on dark content such as games like alien isolation, dark souls, doom etc. then I wouldn't worry.

harry5522 said:
I've come to terms with IPS glow I've had it on all my IPS screens.

The vivid colours make up for the not so great blacks. Roll on OLED 3440x1440 200hz 0.1ms gsync and whatever other crazy tech comes along in 45 years when ^ is available
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IPS glow is different to back light bleed. Every IPS monitor has IPS glow to a certain extent. Backlight bleed is not a fault of IPS but more so down to the chassis assembly i.e. the plastic housing around the panel is too tight. IPS panels seem to be more sensitive to pressure than other panel types though.

I've never had much issue with IPS glow, I think it is overblown a lot of the time as generally it is only ever an issue on dark content in a dark/dim room AND viewing from an angle. Reducing my brightness to about 90/100 luminance and adding a LED strip to the back of the monitor reduced the appearance of it considerably, even for when viewing from a slight angle.

OLED 21.9 would be stunning, I dread to see the price when that day comes though :o Until then, the next best and closest thing will be HDR + full array local dimming monitors but again, they will not be cheap.
 
Afternoon all,

Is there agreement that the Samsung C791 is the best bet in relation to a 34" 21:9 monitor currently available? I've read lots of reviews and they tend to be pretty favourable bar the couple of documented issues.

I've also been searching online to see if there is anything coming out in the near future that might keep me hanging on. Has anyone seen / heard of anything? I'm just mindful spending this much on a monitor with all the new tech coming out - be it Freesync 2 or HDR.

There's always something to wait for, eh!

Thanks
 
Stimpo said:
Afternoon all,

Is there agreement that the Samsung C791 is the best bet in relation to a 34" 21:9 monitor currently available? I've read lots of reviews and they tend to be pretty favourable bar the couple of documented issues.

I've also been searching online to see if there is anything coming out in the near future that might keep me hanging on. Has anyone seen / heard of anything? I'm just mindful spending this much on a monitor with all the new tech coming out - be it Freesync 2 or HDR.

There's always something to wait for, eh!

Thanks
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as you said, you can always wait forever for the next big thing, but that means that you'll never get anything. There is a panel very similar to the Sammy, this one http://www.anandtech.com/show/11145/asus-designo-curve-mx34vq-due-soon.
Pretty much exactly the same, the border / features change a little bit.
 
Stimpo said:
Afternoon all,

Is there agreement that the Samsung C791 is the best bet in relation to a 34" 21:9 monitor currently available? I've read lots of reviews and they tend to be pretty favourable bar the couple of documented issues.

I've also been searching online to see if there is anything coming out in the near future that might keep me hanging on. Has anyone seen / heard of anything? I'm just mindful spending this much on a monitor with all the new tech coming out - be it Freesync 2 or HDR.

There's always something to wait for, eh!

Thanks
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It looks good on paper and a lot of reviewers sure like them but i usually find that what reviewers find acceptable i surely dont. Ive already owned one of samsung's newer VA panels, although only a 1080p 16:9 screen and not the latest series either, and it was horrible beyond belief which makes me very cautious about their new ones. Best thing would be a live demo. What i would be worried about is black trailing and overshoot issues.
 
Batman AA is very nice on 21.9, the boss fights are where the extra FOV/wideness really shines:

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Graphics are a bit meh overall now, however, the amount of detail and thought put into the arkham asylum design is amazing.
 
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