£2k got me..

Matt82 said:
as in software, hardware, monitoring, testing. there is a lot to it to make it "safe"
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Well essentially i'm just interested to know how you do it, as so far all you've said is that you do it yourself.

I'd be interested to hear more about the options available for self mapping a car, even though i'd be unlikely to actually try it myself, it's something i'd be interested to hear more on and learn about.
 
[TW]Fox;18169407 said:
Why wont you tell anyone how you map your car?

Loads of people have asked you, most of which are other 1.8T owners interested in doing the same. You always avoid the issue.

Why?
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because there is a lot involved. lots of testing, lots of logging, lots of analysing the results, then make another "educated" change based on what youve found then repeat the testing/logging/analysing phases. not that indifferent to overclocking, running prime95 (do they still do that?) but having to check all the results afterwards because a PC will just fall over, you reboot it, but with an engine you can do real damage.

when i was posting on audi sport last year it was all discussed on there, a fair few 1.8t types were doing it, but as has been demonstrated in this thread, not everyone is confident enough to try this and that, especially in audi/vw circles as theyre the biggest flock of sheep going and will just follow the same routes as everyone else, completely inable to think outside the box sums it up. so even though the software is readily available out there, and has been for years, it hasnt caught on... come on, this is the crowd that will choose a remap without even seeing dyno plots of what the output profile will be afterwards.
 
Kenai said:
Well essentially i'm just interested to know how you do it, as so far all you've said is that you do it yourself.

I'd be interested to hear more about the options available for self mapping a car, even though i'd be unlikely to actually try it myself, it's something i'd be interested to hear more on and learn about.
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what car/engine do you have?
 
Mk4 1.8T with an AUM engine.

I'm interested to hear what the software is though, what it's capable of etc. etc. even if it's not capable of altering my car, i'd be interested to hear about the process beyond 'plug a laptop in and do some logging and testing'.
 
Matt82 said:
because there is a lot involved.
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No, because you don't actually do anything like what you say you do. You want us to think you are some sort of uber home tuner with a quick car.

Sorry but it's obvious. Remapping your own car from home is unusual and interesting. I can see no reason why somebody who does it AND spends a lot of time on a car forum wouldnt want to talk about how.

Instead you ignore requests for information and when pushed, give only highly vague answers.
 
If what he is saying is true, and it did make his vanilla spec Golf make "Type Rs looks as though they are going backwards" my spidey senses tell me every one of the 1.8t VW "sheep" would be doing it and turning their cars into genuine performance cars.
 
He just wants us to think he's an awesome super great tuner guy, he always has, it was the same when he bought a money pit of an S4 and then sold it soon after because it was a huge money pit and expensive to run oh wait no, because it was 'boring', yes thats right, I forget now, his twin turbo V6 S4 was boring so he now has an FWD Mk4 Golf instead. Only because the S4 was boring, mind. But then I guess everything is boring compared to a super secret tuned Golf that makes Type R's look like they are going backwards.

Fake people on the internet are annoying me today :(
 
Aww poor Fox. :(

Each to their own, there will be a time where people won't even be able to run cars, let alone afford, at the way things are going in this country. Enjoy them while you can. :(
 
or its just overboosted to buggery and living on borrowed time

I remember when I first got my motec m800 dongle and started buggering around with my scoob i thought I was the greatest mapper on the panet

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boost booost boooooooost

bang
 
dear oh dear. youve got the wrong end of so many sticks there and a real case of making a tool out of yourself with only half the information.

seeing as you seem to keep tallys of everyone's lives on here you really ought to brush up on my posts over the last year because youre miles from the mark.

[TW]Fox;18169740 said:
He just wants us to think he's an awesome super great tuner guy, he always has, it was the same when he bought a money pit of an S4 and then sold it soon after because it was a huge money pit and expensive to run oh wait no, because it was 'boring', yes thats right, I forget now, his twin turbo V6 S4 was boring so he now has an FWD Mk4 Golf instead. Only because the S4 was boring, mind. But then I guess everything is boring compared to a super secret tuned Golf that makes Type R's look like they are going backwards.

Fake people on the internet are annoying me today :(
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the boost is actually very conservative. ive not actually seen intake temps above 47* (during the nights testing last year)

anywho, as dangerous as homebrew settings or a no brand map or fox might claim them to be, its my car, its covered over 16k miles since the start of this thread and returns brilliant mpg lol

i was thinking about it the other night, gtech wont prove much, 0-60 has too many variables, i dont have access to datron, dynos are flawed, i could video a 60-100 run but again there are a million variables involved in that too.

so pointless discussion is really quite pointless

Will Gill said:
or its just overboosted to buggery and living on borrowed time

I remember when I first got my motec m800 dongle and started buggering around with my scoob i thought I was the greatest mapper on the panet

advance
advance
boost booost boooooooost

bang
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get familiar with the measuring blocks in vagcom, get a passenger who mysteriously doesnt get travel sick whilst being driven about and looking as a laptop and then decide on which parameters you want to start changing, as a good start.



Kenai said:
I'm possibly being daft but I don't really see how that program would be able to remap the ECU, that just looks like idle control and similar gubbins?

If I were so inclined, what would the steps be to get MAD POWA YO from my car? :p
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Matt, instead of going all keyboard warrior on us how about you explain what you have done to your car and how you do it in a little more detail than "There's a lot involved"?

Like it or not constantly dodging the question that was put to you 2 days and 80 odd posts ago does nothing but show you in a bad light.
 
Matt - Why not just post a brief outline of the following...

What software you use?
What hardware?
How do you know what values to change on what impact this will have over the whole range of the engines operation?
How you monitor the results/improvements?
How you ensure it is 'safe' for the engine?

Mapping is not an easy thing to do well, even with fully functioning and incredibly flexible aftermarket ECUs.... Its an easy thing to get wrong if you don't know what you're doing, hell enough so called competent tuners manage it from time to time. Hence all the questions and scepticism...!
 
why are you quoting everyone in reverse?

if when you hit the quote button it does nothing, clear your multi quote setting - just saying because that happened to me the other day
 
Matt82 said:
get familiar with the measuring blocks in vagcom, get a passenger who mysteriously doesnt get travel sick whilst being driven about and looking as a laptop and then decide on which parameters you want to start changing, as a good start.
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How would one go about 'changing parameters'? I thought VCDS was purely a diagnostics / data logging tool, I didn't think it could map the ECU?
 
Matt82 said:
i was thinking about it the other night, gtech wont prove much, 0-60 has too many variables, i dont have access to datron, dynos are flawed, i could video a 60-100 run but again there are a million variables involved in that too.

so pointless discussion is really quite pointless
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You have vagcom ? Do a timed run 30-70 and 30-130 those will give the best indication of performance. The timer section uses the ECU speed pickup which is pretty accurate should be with 1/4 of a second of GPS on those runs.

Do you use lemmiwinks to adjust your timing ?
 
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