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3090 is NOT a gaming card - Gamers Nexus DESTROYS the 3090

diamount said:
So why include a resolution unobtainable in their marketing materials? As before your ire should be directed towards Nvidia.
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Doom eternal runs fine in native 8k at 60fps all day.... The resolution is perfectly obtainable in well programmed and optimised games. THAT is why I said it should have been included. It is not Nvidias fault most games are optimised for 1 core so suffer a CPU bottleneck in the days when even phone games are optimised for multi core! My ire is perfectly placed thank you!
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Not sure what all the issues are with Jay's video, were you all watching the same video?

He clearly said it had a 15% performance uplift and you should only buy it if you must have the absolute best. He only recommended it for compute which is fair. You might not like his delivery style but the message throughout the video was clear and fair. Hardly a fanboy review, yes he rags on AMD GPU's and yet rates AMD CPU's very highly. Lets face it, that's because AMD GPU's pretty rubbish compared to what Nvida has on offer. Especially the Radeon 7 which which he has mentioned a few times in his latest video's on GPUs, that card was DOA. Lets hope big Navi actually pulls something out of the bag, if they do I'm sure he will also review it positivly.

I think Linus overhyped the gaming section but the conclusion at the end of the video is more than fair. He didn't discuss value but he did talk about the price and the price of the 3080, he also didn't say you should run out and buy it and its ultimately for you to make up your own mind on that point.

I think his 8k gaming video was more than fair, he was very clear that Nvidia was telling him what content he could show and what settings he could run the game on and that it didn't apply to all games. MKBHHD on the other hand needs to keep away from gaming, that video was much worse.

I actually thought Steve's video was the worst, spending over 10 mins ranting about 8k marketing was a waste of time, something which was obvious to pretty much anyone with half a brain. I also disagree with his view on DLSS, yes it absolutely has it's limitations but it's a very good technology and is something that the whole industry needs to get behind, it would massively reduce the hardware required for a really high end experience. I get what he had to say and I agree with it. '8k gaming' marketing is utterly stupid and the money thing was funny. However, he should have just said his piece in 2-3 mins and then cracked on with the video, his videos are long enough as it is.
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I agree for the most and I love a bit of Jay vids, as he is quite comical in them. Linus I watch but his voice does grate me a bit. I watch pretty much all of them. Worthabuy I watch for gam,e reviews, even though I don't agree with him most of the time, he does make me laugh a lot, which is muchly needed now.

As for 8K gaming, I really don't see the need unless you are gaming on a 55" screen or bigger and sitting 3 feet away.
 
the people raging about 8k gaming are comical especially as the vast majority of them have no way to actually game at 8k even if they did buy a 3090. they are just having a rage out because they wanted the 3090 to be more than a 10-15% bump. not because they will own one but because brand idiocy.
 
6suxen said:
Whatever the **** the six black things are on the back of the GPU on the TUF, on FE there are four, and in place of the two middle black things are what look to be six transistors replacing each.

Go look before losing your little lemon :)

It's blatantly obvious to any layman there's a difference.

Have a nice day!
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Thing is, they're capacitors, not transistors, which are an entirely different thing. But as soon as something gets on the internet it tends to be copied, and copied, and misinformation spreads really easily. And yes there are differences between cards, but it's far from definitive that the difference in capacitors between these cards are what is causing the issues. Also, the price element or "quality" of these components is really not the factor; availability, chosen rating (not the same between manufacturers even for similarly looking components) and specifications that come with these different types and different capacities are what could potentially be the problem.

Basically, you can't look at a picture of the card, see what the component layout for the power buffering stages looks like, and make a "oh yeah that card is bad" assesment right now - it is far from that simple. It's really easy to wrongly "inform" other people that's what it's all about though, and these people will also run away with that.
 
It's amusing how some people became experts in electronics and capacitors over night. This new episode of manufactured outrage over nitpicking and irrelevant technicalities reminds me of the Asus MB power delivery issues from a couple of years ago. It turned out to be totally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Just pointless nitpicking by a YT channel in an attempt to gain viewership. People love outrage and conspiracy theories, so unfortunately it works.
 
bfar said:
They know their stuff alright. PC gaming isn't niche anymore - there are a lot of people out there putting big money down on it. One of the reasons is that these products are hyped up to wildly irrational levels. I must admit I used to get caught up in it myself. But just look at the active preorder threads on the forum, it's madness, I can feel the stress just flicking through them. Tbh that Gamers Nexus review is a breath of fresh air amongst a throng of media that struggles to call out the intrinsic value of these products, even for commited gamers.

There is absolutely no need to own the latest gpu on day one, certainly not the way these launches are executed nowadays. And there is also no real need to pay outrageous prices to have an amazing gaming experience. I've learned the hard way over years of gaming on PCs. Whether it's hardware or the latest games, a little patience makes the whole thing far more enjoyable.
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Brilliant post. Bang on.
 
HeatSink said:
It's amusing how some people became experts in electronics and capacitors over night. This new episode of manufactured outrage over nitpicking and irrelevant technicalities reminds me of the Asus MB power delivery issues from a couple of years ago. It turned out to be totally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Just pointless nitpicking by a YT channel in an attempt to gain viewership. People love outrage and conspiracy theories, so unfortunately it works.
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EVGA said "During our mass production QC testing we discovered a full 6 POSCAPs solution cannot pass the real world applications testing. It took almost a week of R&D effort to find the cause and reduce the POSCAPs to 4 and add 20 MLCC caps prior to shipping production boards, this is why the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 series was delayed at launch."
It may not be as clear cut as if you have 6 black caps on the back you're in trouble but this isn't some random theory.
 
BaueruTc said:
You sound so so salty that it is pretty sad tbh....
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I'm not salty, not at all. Just a personal thing to think it's lame be on a roll of honour and swing the epeen. Perhaps its getting older that I've no time for stuff like that. Just my opinion, like you have yours.

Is it their cash? yeah it is.
Can they buy whatever they want? yes of course they can, see point 1 about it being their cash.

But it's also those people that are part of the problem too. If they refused to buy a £1700 graphics card then nvidia wouldn't sell them for that, pushing up all the prices for the other tiers in the process.

Now we're seeing a **70 series card at £600....a 70 series card...for...£600+ :rolleyes:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-44r-as.html

A 70 series card was always the affordable option for most gamers. Great value, good performance. Now it's zero value and good performance...at £600+ for a Mid range graphics card, that's zero value.
 
subbytna said:
I'm not salty, not at all. Just a personal thing to think it's lame be on a roll of honour and swing the epeen. Perhaps its getting older that I've no time for stuff like that. Just my opinion, like you have yours.

Is it their cash? yeah it is.
Can they buy whatever they want? yes of course they can, see point 1 about it being their cash.

But it's also those people that are part of the problem too. If they refused to buy a £1700 graphics card then nvidia wouldn't sell them for that, pushing up all the prices for the other tiers in the process.

Now we're seeing a **70 series card at £600....a 70 series card...for...£600+ :rolleyes:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-44r-as.html

A 70 series card was always the affordable option for most gamers. Great value, good performance. Now it's zero value and good performance...at £600+ for a Mid range graphics card, that's zero value.
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There is alway's AMD's offering coming soon ;)
 
Tom|Nbk said:
Winus Linus is a slippery eel. I don't mind his stuff though It's reasonably acceptable.

Jay has my eyes watering though with his flappy bingo wings
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Linus has done some videos about financial issues. Not to say he has been paid as that would be pure speculation, but Linus does some quite decent tech tips videos and presents well, so I will always watch those, but skip the review stuff.
 
Troezar said:
I don't know how they get away with it.



I'm not sure but we're they using lower settings and DLSS?
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DLSS was very likely on, I remember back in the GTX 970 days, and the nvidia rep was been interviewed by that guy who now works for intel, the rep kept showing figures with MFAA on and the reviewer wasnt taking any of it, was amusing to see the disagreement on show.
 
Combat Fighter said:
More than likely there will be a proper Ti version coming out later with more vram. Gotta milk the early suckers for the midrange version first.
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Indeed, There is a nice 1792 CUDA core gap between the 3080 and 3090 that the inevitable 3080 Ti will fill with some added VRAM, Likely 20GB, It's easy money for Nvidia, That's what I'm waiting for as it will likely have a slightly more refined GA102 die like we saw in the past with the xx80Ti models.
 
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