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3090 is NOT a gaming card - Gamers Nexus DESTROYS the 3090

Cooper said:
The reason is simple, You have no business buying a 3090 just for gaming, the benchmarks prove that.

Those who do, are only interested in it as a status symbol, a trophy item, using them just to brag about having the means to get one, on places like this...as the post above this one, shows all too well.
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How does it? If you are buying a 3090 like the asus strix, its 20 to 30% faster than a 3080 and 50 to 60% faster than a 2080ti. Will be even more if you intend to put a waterblock on and keep the temps below 50C.

If you are gaming at 4k (which some of us like me have been for 5 years) the 3090 offers you a rock solid 60fps in every game at 4k with max detail (it doesnt actually, if you want to use rtx in control then even the 3090 doesnt give you that but with DLSS on as well it will give you a minimum framerate of 60 fps whereas the 3080 is still only in the high 40s)

With a lot of 3090 buyers having lg 48 cx panels as well, being able to make use of the 60-120 range with the 3090 makes a big difference as well. Some games like doom will be locked on to 120 fps at max detail.
 
The concern some people have over other people's purchases is truly touching.:p

The only thing that really matters is how happy the individual is with their purchase. Like beauty, value is in the eye of the beholder.
 
Im certainly not in the market for a 3090 but I’m not sure why people feel the need to criticise people who are buying a 3090 or why those who are buying one are having to justify buying it to random strangers on the internet. :confused::confused:

Just because you don’t see the value in a 3090 or can’t afford it, doesn’t mean others share that opinion and it doesn’t give you the right to critique others who want to buy one. Put a sock in it.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Im certainly not in the market for a 3090 but I’m not sure why people feel the need to criticise people who are buying a 3090 or why those who are buying one are having to justify buying it to random strangers on the internet. :confused::confused:

Just because you don’t see the value in a 3090 or can’t afford it, doesn’t mean others share that opinion and it doesn’t give you the right to critique others who want to buy one. Put a sock in it.
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^^This. I'm pleased for all those that have taken an early gamble on the 3090. Hope they all enjoy their purchases for whatever their reason. Any 4k gamer will, like myself, 'want' one of these and I probably would if one was in stock as I'm an impulse purchaser. There are further cards in the stack to be released and priced and with AMD just around the corner, the lack of stock is just making me wait. Otherwise fair play, spend your hard earned on what you want. People telling folk they shouldn't have bought one are probably 2080ti'less currently and raging coz they didn't get one.
 
Hardware Unboxed just totally slated the 3090.

Their benchmarks put a Factory OC 3080 within touching distance at 4k of the 3090FE. Not even the fastest Factory OC models either.

Aurus Extreme, KingPin and MSI Lightning models are going to be 3090 performance out of the box without any messy overclocking and likely all for under 900 squid.
 
I'm in the middle-income bracket. Slightly above the national average last time I checked, but not unduly so. But I am pretty frugal in most areas of my life - don't have a car (don't need one in London), mortgage is under control, don't eat out often, don't take as many overseas holidays as most of my colleagues.

My one real extravagance is my gaming PC and compared to what some of my colleagues spend their money on, it's a pretty small extravagance. The £1,500 I spent on a 3090 wouldn't go very far if I spent it over in petrolhead land instead and would cover only a modest overseas holiday (not that that's an option right now). I am going to have the shiniest shiny for my gaming and don't really care what the price-to-performance ratios say.
 
But that’s like saying a used overclocked 2080ti which can be had for under £500 is within touching distance of a 3080, because it is. Or some overclocked lower tier CPU is within touching distance of the one above it.

It’s apples and oranges unless you apply the same standard to both units, e.g. overclock both of them....
 
fx1 said:
Hardware Unboxed just totally slated the 3090.

Their benchmarks put a Factory OC 3080 within touching distance at 4k of the 3090FE. Not even the fastest Factory OC models either.

Aurus Extreme, KingPin and MSI Lightning models are going to be 3090 performance out of the box without any messy overclocking and likely all for under 900 squid.
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That was a pathetic review and obviously if you are going to put the same power through a 3080 as you are putting through a 3090 then they are going to be close.

Kingpin and MSI lightning aint going to be under £900 quid either. We will do well if they come in under a grand.

We get it. You hate everybody who bought a 3090. You need help, not us.
 
deuse said:
Well after saying I won't be buying a 3090..
I bought an ASUS Strix OC 3090 :D
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Only card I’ve been toying with after looking at reviews but as it’s all pre-orders anyway I’m going to at least wait and see if AMD bring anything worthwhile to the table first.

Hopefully there may be stock turning up by then anyway if AMD do disappoint.

Would be gutted to spend this sort of wedge on a GPU just to find out that AMD have knocked its socks off!
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
But that’s like saying a used overclocked 2080ti which can be had for under £500 is within touching distance of a 3080, because it is. Or some overclocked lower tier CPU is within touching distance of the one above it.

It’s apples and oranges unless you apply the same standard to both units, e.g. overclock both of them....
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Not exactly.

Strix OC comes out of the box with 1915mhz. That means no messing around and no software based overclocking.

Also a 2080Ti Kingpin or Aurus Extreme was 1250-1500 at Launch.

A Strix OC 3090 is over 1800 pounds right now. Which is 400 above MSRP for Founders card.

So the fact you soon will be getting factory OC models doing well over 2000mhz for 8xx pounds makes it hard to beat.

The real elephant in the room is the fact that you can make a 650 quid TUF model boost past 2000mhz out of the box also....
 
Greebo said:
That was a pathetic review and obviously if you are going to put the same power through a 3080 as you are putting through a 3090 then they are going to be close.

Kingpin and MSI lightning aint going to be under £900 quid either. We will do well if they come in under a grand.

We get it. You hate everybody who bought a 3090. You need help, not us.
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Every reviewer has basically slated the 3090. Even LTT says he wouldnt spend his own money on one and hes probably a millionaire.

Good news is next launch there will be a 4090 which is 200% more expensive for 5% performance increase because you have proved to Nvidia that people will buy them no matter how badly it performs
 
fx1 said:
Not exactly.

Strix OC comes out of the box with 1915mhz. That means no messing around and no software based overclocking.

Also a 2080Ti Kingpin or Aurus Extreme was 1250-1500 at Launch.

A Strix OC 3090 is over 1800 pounds right now. Which is 400 above MSRP for Founders card.

So the fact you soon will be getting factory OC models doing well over 2000mhz for 8xx pounds makes it hard to beat.

The real elephant in the room is the fact that you can make a 650 quid TUF model boost past 2000mhz out of the box also....
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It is exactly the same. A second hand 2080ti with a 2100 boost is within 5-10% of 3080 performance so why pay £800-£900 for a better 3080 to get that gap to 10-20% again?

Why would anybody spend £400 more just to get 10-20% better perfromance?

You can make this argument for every gfx card launch ever.

As you move up the performance to the higher tiers you get less and less for your money. The bang for buck ALWAYS lies somewhere around the xx70 cards.

Anybody buying above that for gaming doesnt make financial sense anymore. Yet people buy xx80 and ti and titans. Always have.
 
fx1 said:
Every reviewer has basically slated the 3090. Even LTT says he wouldnt spend his own money on one and hes probably a millionaire.

Good news is next launch there will be a 4090 which is 200% more expensive for 5% performance increase because you have proved to Nvidia that people will buy them no matter how badly it performs
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Try not to lose too much sleep over it. :D
 
fx1 said:
Every reviewer has basically slated the 3090. Even LTT says he wouldnt spend his own money on one and hes probably a millionaire.

Good news is next launch there will be a 4090 which is 200% more expensive for 5% performance increase because you have proved to Nvidia that people will buy them no matter how badly it performs
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I said this before, the 3090 is awful value for money for gaming. So was the 2080ti. So was the Titan Xp.

And me not buying one 3090 will make no difference to how much Nvidia charge for the 3090. Look at ths forum. 3090s are being bought at around 50% of the 3080. Thats much much bigger percentage than the titans were bought the last two generations and they were much much cheaper.

And no, every reviewer hasnt slated the 3090s. Most reviewers have raved about what absolute beasts and incredible performance they give BUT the price is too high and the card is not value for money.

And we all know before xmas LTT will have two 3090s in SLI in his pc. I put money on it.
 
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The 3090 wouldn't register on my toy budget but I don't like being taken for a mug so for that reason alone I'm not paying double for 10% increase.

Bring out a £2000 card that is twice the performance on the 3080 and I'll buy it.
 
Lithium said:
The 3090 wouldn't register on my toy budget but I don't like being taken for a mug so for that reason alone I'm not paying double for 10% increase.

Bring out a £2000 card that is twice the performance on the 3080 and I'll buy it.
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You are in the same camp as me ;)

I find that people who have plenty of disposable income who had to work for it also are careful in how they spend it.

Being taken for a mug is exactly how id feel if i parted with the cash for such poor performance uplift.
 
Greebo said:
It is exactly the same. A second hand 2080ti with a 2100 boost is within 5-10% of 3080 performance so why pay £800-£900 for a better 3080 to get that gap to 10-20% again?

Why would anybody spend £400 more just to get 10-20% better perfromance?

You can make this argument for every gfx card launch ever.

As you move up the performance to the higher tiers you get less and less for your money. The bang for buck ALWAYS lies somewhere around the xx70 cards.

Anybody buying above that for gaming doesnt make financial sense anymore. Yet people buy xx80 and ti and titans. Always have.
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No it isnt.

One is second hand and one is new. Its desperate to bring in used values to justify 3090 prices
 
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