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I don't have any experience with Ampere, nor high refresh, but I do have quite a lot of experience in commercial installations for digital signage.
Based on that, 5m on (decent quality) copper cables is usually the reliable limit, but anything over that I'd look at fibre-optic based cables.
Just had a look on a well known online purveyor of everything and you can get a 10m for £85, 20m for £90 - reviews on that indicate 1440p@144Hz (so I can't see why 165Hz would be a problem) works fine (on the 20m).
If you have trouble with those, shouldn't be too much hassle to return it!

Hope that helps :)

That's very helpful, I didn't think about fibre options. Thanks very much for the info and thanks also @Rroff
 
Probably for good reason, I'm no sparky, but the longer it is, the better the cabling has to be to safely carry the current.

Cable length is unlikely to be a factor, the reason the aftermarket cables fail is mainly down to the cable not being thick enough (cross sectional area) and to a lesser extent the connections not being crimped properly.
 
You are both sort of right, as cables get longer, internal resistance increases and thus they need to be thicker but in reality for that to be a factor the cable would need to be measured in meters and not centimetres.

As long as its the correct gage (e.g. the same thickness of the PSU cables) and has been assembled correctly, there is no reason why it should spontaneously combust over any other PSU cable.

Your first sentence covers volts drop, and as we have both said the cable lengths in this situation is unlikely to produce significant volts drop that would make a difference in increased current.

Your second sentence isn't entirely accurate, because the PSU cable thickness isn't the standard to aim for when talking about component cable length - the PSU cable thickness is determined by its own length and the rated current it is designed to take. If we had to introduce a component to the system, in this case a GPU, and we attached a cable that was so long that we required an unusually thick cable, then that could easily lead to a situation where the PSU cable isn't thick enough either because it would have become the bottleneck as it would be smaller (thinner) than the components cable.

Anyway, I agree that cable length is very unlikely to be a factor.
 
No wonder prices are going up on CEX and the likes if you cant get an FE card in the UK..

I just managed to pick up a PS5 so CEX will likely have one more 3060ti to sell if they're offering me £680 for it. I've actually recovered my original outlay from the card via mining Eth and now selling for double that again. What a strange time this is.
 
NVidia have proven they couldn't give two, or more, ***** about who buys them as long as they make bank..

That's nonsense, after witnessing the 'bot feeding frenzy last September/October they teamed up with a local retailer in each region to ensure the cards are sold in the fairest manner possible. They're the only company I can think of that is putting that level of effort into how the product is being distributed for sale.
 
Yeah them selling $175million's worth of ampere cards directly to miners before they then started pushing LHR cards out slip your mind?

What are you talking about. They initially sold the cards from their own website via Digital River and the site ground to a halt every time as 'bots scooped them all up in seconds in order to scalp them on eBay. NV then outsourced to an OcUK rival as their sole retailer in the UK with the strict instructions to sell at MRSP. One card per customer etc.

What do you expect them to do, request your home address and have Jensen turn up in a French maid outfit? The fact a LHR version even exists tells you all you need to know.
 
If the card is hitting 110°C on the memory gaming, then it needs to go back for RMA.

My 3080 regularly exceeds 100C and functions perfectly. Just because we don't like the look of something it doesn't mean it's a basis for RMA - the likelihood is that the card would just be returned to you stating that it's working as intended.

This is why I have no intention of changing pads because that would just risk a rejected RMA in future.
 
All the info regarding operating windows and limits are provided by the manufacturer, you don't have to guess.

https://www.micron.com/products/ultra-bandwidth-solutions/gddr6x/part-catalog

The operating limits are clearly defined, I'm not contesting that. What I'm saying is that my card reports 100+ and functions perfectly fine. I pay no attention to it because not only does it function fine, I can't even be sure that it's even hitting that temperature because I'm reliant on 3rd party software to tell me.

I wouldn't consider thermal pads or RMA unless I was experiencing actual performance issues.
 
It makes no difference to you personally that a product you have paid a large some of money for does not work correctly due to a thermal issue caused by poor quality control/poor design/poor manufacturing?

Honestly, why do people do this? That's clearly not what I said

I wouldn't consider thermal pads or RMA unless I was experiencing actual performance issues.

You would not really notice performance issues with the memory throttling anyway. You would only know using software

In which case, personally it makes no difference to me.
 
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