3600 cl14 bargain

Just bought some 4400mhz to go with my 3700x. Plugged it in went into bios set the 'Memory Try' option to 3800mhz reduced timings to 16-16-16-38, set the IF to 1900mhz and rebooted.

Seems stable playing games at the moment, will do some mem testing tomorrow and then possibly try lowering the timings some more
 
I am looking to get 32GB ram for my new pc ideally 2x16GB but I don't think these come in a kit like that. I am concidering to get 2 of these kits so 4x8GB to make a 32GB setup. I cannot see any qvl on any mobo stating that they support this does anyone have this kind of setup?
 
apostolis_kt said:
I am looking to get 32GB ram for my new pc ideally 2x16GB but I don't think these come in a kit like that. I am concidering to get 2 of these kits so 4x8GB to make a 32GB setup. I cannot see any qvl on any mobo stating that they support this does anyone have this kind of setup?
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I've just bought 64gb worth of this RAM for my HEDT. I don't even bother looking at the QVL list, as it just seems to be insurance for the motherboard manufacturer so that they can get out of providing anyone with support that doesn't have very specific RAM. All that matters is that it's B-Die and as we all know, B-Die is the good stuff that is most compatible with Ryzen (I'm running Threadripper).

Although I just bought 64 gigs worth of this stuff (and not installed it yet), I've been running 32 gigs of lesser quality Teamgroup B-Die memory for about a year and a half. It requires the use of Ryzen DRAM Calculator by 1usmus and manually setting all the timings to get the optimal performance and stability out of it. You cannot just slap on the XMP profile and expect it to work perfectly.
 
I had the 4400Mhz for 1 day, tried all recommended calculator settings and all failed to boot at 3733 or 3800Mhz. I then tried the settings I already had on my 92% quality 8Pack kit (3600Mhz C16), and was having issues as well. The only ones I found stable were worst settings compared to my current kit even though it is meant to be of higher quality. I ended up returning it.
 
I bought 16G of the 4400 Viper and it is much faster than my 8 pack Kit which would not run at the settings below.
Very important though to include the Termination Block and Cad Bus Block settings from DRAM calc.

All below are at 1T with Gear down OFF.

Memory volts never exceeded 1.48 not into 1.5V plus.

Using these settings from DRAM calc
Taichi bios (beta 2.46)
Ryzen 2 gen
Profile V1
Freq 3800
Tcl 16
Trcdwr 16
trcdrd 17
Trp 16

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArMHGD-yylU7gdpk0hMgiuZXclAS5w?e=Ax7I8w

Taichi bios 2.5 (release)
Ryzen 2 gen
Profile V1
Freq 3600
Tcl 14
Trcdwr 14
trcdrd 15
Trp 14

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArMHGD-yylU7gdpl5PP6_Mv4KKWRFw?e=nfAsaB

Also Membench results which shows my best 3800 and 3600 results.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArMHGD-yylU7gdpnoCEYU3QlgSmuZA?e=uBjzdp

3600 result is using Taichi bios 2.5 which for me is noticeably slower for OC and also memory tuning.
Thought i had one from the previous beta bios but only for the 3800 result it seems.
 
Nghtmare said:
I had the 4400Mhz for 1 day, tried all recommended calculator settings and all failed to boot at 3733 or 3800Mhz. I then tried the settings I already had on my 92% quality 8Pack kit (3600Mhz C16), and was having issues as well. The only ones I found stable were worst settings compared to my current kit even though it is meant to be of higher quality. I ended up returning it.
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Shac said:
I bought 16G of the 4400 Viper and it is much faster than my 8 pack Kit which would not run at the settings below.
Very important though to include the Termination Block and Cad Bus Block settings from DRAM calc.

All below are at 1T with Gear down OFF.

Memory volts never exceeded 1.48 not into 1.5V plus.

Using these settings from DRAM calc
Taichi bios (beta 2.46)
Ryzen 2 gen
Profile V1
Freq 3800
Tcl 16
Trcdwr 16
trcdrd 17
Trp 16

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArMHGD-yylU7gdpk0hMgiuZXclAS5w?e=Ax7I8w

Taichi bios 2.5 (release)
Ryzen 2 gen
Profile V1
Freq 3600
Tcl 14
Trcdwr 14
trcdrd 15
Trp 14

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArMHGD-yylU7gdpl5PP6_Mv4KKWRFw?e=nfAsaB

Also Membench results which shows my best 3800 and 3600 results.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArMHGD-yylU7gdpnoCEYU3QlgSmuZA?e=uBjzdp

3600 result is using Taichi bios 2.5 which for me is noticeably slower for OC and also memory tuning.
Thought i had one from the previous beta bios but only for the 3800 result it seems.
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It's probably just down to the sticks silicon lottery.
 
Joxeon said:
It's probably just down to the sticks silicon lottery.
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I guess, it is just confusing how that kit was meant to be 94% vs my 92%, even the calculator was showing tighrer timings in comparison but none worked. Only manual tuning did, but was slower than my current kit. I can run my 8Pack kit at 63.7ns at 3733Mhz, and 62.xns if I change it to 3800Mhz.
 
Nghtmare said:
I guess, it is just confusing how that kit was meant to be 94% vs my 92%, even the calculator was showing tighrer timings in comparison but none worked. Only manual tuning did, but was slower than my current kit. I can run my 8Pack kit at 63.7ns at 3733Mhz, and 62.xns if I change it to 3800Mhz.
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Tbf any kit you get is going to struggle to beat those latencies. Don't think I,ve seen under 62ns on 3rd gen, not at sane voltages anyway.
 
Even though the motherboard showed the correct voltage for the memory (default of 1.35v if memory serves) it still gave me issues in Windows until I manually set it.

I have no idea why but manually setting it seemed to resolve the issue.


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The two faster speeds are Samsung B-Die.

All four kits shall be reduced in price tomorrow afternoon for our weekly offers. :)
 
Picked up a Ryzen 3700x, Gigabyte Aorus Elite x570 and 16gig 4400 of the Patriot. Really hoping I can hit 1900 fclk and run them at 3800. Guess I'll find out tomorrow!
 
Got everything up and running. PC won't boot when trying for a 1900 fclk. Any bios changes that I can do to help with this?
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oRuin said:
Got everything up and running. PC won't boot when trying for a 1900 fclk. Any bios changes that I can do to help with this?
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Nothing thats been found yet (assuming you've aready upped vDDG to 1050mv). The IF limit is very sudden and varies between boards. My 3800x will do 1900 stable on the MSI B450i and Gigabyte X570i, but only 1866 stable on my mates Strix 570-F, 1900 is a no post. You may be able to squeak a bit more by going to 101 bclk but its hardly worth it.

Picked up another 4400 set, couldn't resist at £110, that's a great price :)
 
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